[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
elle
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Thu Nov 27 12:38:16 EST 2008
Hi, Lurker Robert,
Welcome to the fray, and thanks for your comments.
Tell us a bit about yourself, and don't be afraid to jump in with both feet (or fists, asthe case may be..)
This is, after all, a sailing forum. ;^)
elle
(schoolyard cop)
We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Robert J. Nickerson <infoman at mindspring.com> wrote:
> From: Robert J. Nickerson <infoman at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 9:38 AM
> Notes on Palin from a lurker -
>
> 1. She is reasonably intelligent, very politically savvy,
> and quickly
> learning to be a consummate actress on the national
> political stage.
>
> 2. She helped the GOP ticket only with those who were most
> conservative and
> would either vote for the GOP or not vote for a
> presidential candidate at
> all. The article you so proudly cite says it all - 69% of
> GOP voters is
> less than a third of all voters. The question that needs
> to be asked of all
> voters is the one Rummy answered - did Palin's
> nomination influence you to
> change your vote. I know that I had some thoughts before
> the conventions
> that if Obama named Clinton as his running mate, I would be
> voting for
> McCain. The selection of Palin made that a moot point, and
> assured my vote
> went to Obama (my first vote for a democratic presidential
> nominee in my
> life).
>
> 3. There are some basic things that will most likely
> preclude Palin from
> becoming more than a showpiece that is trotted out to
> "energize the base".
> Although she does not promote policies and laws with a
> religious agenda, she
> does seem to have a religion based narrow world view
> similar to our current
> president. The United States status in the world has been
> damaged enough by
> this.
>
> 4. While she does have executive experience as a governor,
> it is Alaska, a
> state that is rolling in revenues without taxation. Budget
> time is easy -
> not many hard choices.
>
> 5. The final and, as I believe, the most important brake
> on her influence
> on the national stage will be the behind the scenes power
> brokers in the
> Republican Party. They are the source of the nasty rumors
> about the
> clothes, the dumb answers in the briefings, and the
> attempts to remold her.
> They will use her but not promote her.
>
> Robert
>
> Robert J. Nickerson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons"
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012
> Campaign
>
>
> This article lays it out pretty well:
>
> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain
>
>
> David Bradley wrote:
> > Brad, do you really believe that? "Despite what
> the pundits write,
> > McCain would have lost by 10 points without
> Palin." I've not seen a
> > single piece of analysis that doesn't say Pailin
> cost McCain votes in
> > the centrist crowd. I am not debating that she
> accomplished good
> > things in Alaska or that she isn't a viable
> conservative candidate. I
> > just think she contributed to the defeat this time.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Brad Haslett
> <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rummy,
> >>
> >> Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not going
> to happen. Despite
> >> what the pundits write, McCain would have lost by
> 10 points without
> >> Palin. There are still a few of us left who
> believe in ourselves and
> >> not some some 'gubment' program as our
> path to happiness and
> >> prosperity. Will Palin make it to the Whitehouse?
> Maybe, maybe not.
> >> Unlike "The One" where people project
> their hopes on a blank slate,
> >> Sarah Palin has a real record of accomplishments.
> Get use to is Rummy,
> >> Sarah has always written her own ticket and
> she's not losing sleep
> >> about your bitching. Come to think of it, neither
> am I.
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM,
> <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Brad,
> >>> Nobody is worried about Palin, we would just
> appreciate it if she would
> >>> go
> >>> home.....and stay there.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 7:34:06 P.M.
> Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> Ben,
> >>>
> >>> Sooner or later, people will figure out that
> Sarah Palin is the "real
> >>> deal".
> >>> She didn't make fools out of Big Oil
> CEO's by being stupid despite the
> >>> howls of derision against her by you and your
> ilk. When the patina of
> >>> "sacredness" has worn off The One,
> people will be hungry for someone of
> >>> substance.
> >>> Laugh your ass off while you can. The press
> and the 'leftards'
> >>> wouldn't pay so
> >>> much attention to Palin if they weren't
> worried about her.
> >>>
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Ben Cittadino
> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Ben Cittadino
> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin
> Begins 2012 Campaign
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 6:04 PM
> >>>> November 25, 2008, 3:11 pm NYTimes Online
> >>>>
> >>>> "Southern Exposure
> >>>> By Tobin Harshaw
> >>>> Well, for those of you who thought Sarah
> Palin would
> >>>> quietly go North to the
> >>>> Future, it appears that instead she's
> going Deep South:
> >>>> "Republican vice
> >>>> presidential nominee Sarah Palin will
> make multiple
> >>>> campaign appearances on
> >>>> behalf of Sen. Saxby Chambliss next week
> in Georgia,
> >>>> serving as the
> >>>> political closer for the GOP senator who
> is battling to win
> >>>> a second term,"
> >>>> reports CNN.
> >>>>
> >>>> "This is Palin's first campaign
> appearance on behalf of
> >>>> another Republican
> >>>> candidate since losing her bid to become
> the nation's
> >>>> first woman to serve
> >>>> as vice president. Palin will attend a
> fundraiser on Sunday
> >>>> night, then
> >>>> appear at multiple campaign stops on
> Monday in an effort to
> >>>> rally the GOP
> >>>> base to turn out to vote for Chambliss.
> The incumbent
> >>>> Republican is facing a
> >>>> strong challenge from Democrat Jim Martin.
> A runoff is
> >>>> scheduled for next
> >>>> Tuesday, after neither candidate received
> the 50 percent
> >>>> plus one vote
> >>>> needed to win on Election Day."
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug Mataconis at Donklephant considers
> the strategy:
> >>>> "The biggest challenge
> >>>> that both Chambliss and Martin face in the
> run-off election
> >>>> is getting their
> >>>> voters to turn out to the polls, since
> it's unlikely that
> >>>> voter turnout will
> >>>> be anywhere near the level it reached on
> November 4th. To
> >>>> the extent that
> >>>> she's able to motivate the base to
> get out and vote,
> >>>> Palin could prove
> >>>> useful to Chambliss."
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Steven Taylor at Poliblog thinks this
> may be more about
> >>>> Palin than
> >>>> Chambliss. "First, the move is
> further evidence of
> >>>> Palin's likely long-term
> >>>> ambitions," he writes. "Second,
> the move means that
> >>>> Chambliss thinks that
> >>>> Palin plays well with the GOP base in a
> red state like
> >>>> Georgia … Certainly
> >>>> if Chambliss wins, the trip will be
> perceived as evidence
> >>>> that Palin is a
> >>>> serious actor within the GOP going
> forward, at least within
> >>>> GOP circles."
> >>>>
> >>>> Palin or no Palin, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air
> is cautiously
> >>>> optimistic about
> >>>> the G.O.P. chances:
> >>>>
> >>>> Voter enthusiasm for Martin has declined
> since the general
> >>>> election. Martin
> >>>> got his momentum from the massive numbers
> of Obama voters,
> >>>> most of whom
> >>>> appear less interested in the remaining
> down-ticket race.
> >>>> Chambliss may not
> >>>> have that problem, since John McCain
> didn't generate an
> >>>> enthusiastic
> >>>> response from the Republican base,
> meaning that
> >>>> Chambliss' voters will be
> >>>> motivated more by Chambliss himself.
> Republicans have the
> >>>> secondary
> >>>> motivation to deny Obama a
> filibuster-proof Senate by
> >>>> ensuring Chambliss'
> >>>> re-election.
> >>>> Either way, it looks like it will go down
> to the wire.
> >>>> Republicans around
> >>>> the country who want to keep at least one
> potential check
> >>>> on the excesses of
> >>>> single-party government had better start
> actively
> >>>> supporting the Chambliss
> >>>> effort."
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't make this stuff up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Happy Thanksgiving;
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben C.
> >>>> --
> >>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://www.nabble.com/POLITICAL-Palin-Begins-2012-Campaign-tp20692288p20692288.html
> >>>
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> archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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