[Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and Dave Ramsey!????Political)

Wed Oct 1 14:00:56 EDT 2008

I've listened to Dave Ramsey, and I think he's a fool.  Well, maybe not a
fool, but definitely the lowest common denominator for the lowest common
American.

He's all about never taking out a loan.  Now, I could have saved money for
three or four years and then bought my Rhodes 22, or I could have gotten a
loan -- one that I could afford -- and then spent time paying it off for
while simultaneously enjoying weekends on the lake.  Which sounds better?

Ben S.

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Ed,

660 AM is WFAN in NYC - Sports Radio (http://www.wfan.com/)

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 
12:46 PM
>
> Andrew,
>
> I guess it just flew over your head.  Rednecks do not read Dave Ramsey; 
> they
> listen in the late afternoon on 660 AM Christian Radio.  Try tuning in AM
> Christian Radio and get right with God.  At least Dave Ramsey is not a
> pseudo evangelist and America hater like Obama.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>
> Andrew Collins-2 wrote:
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> How do you know blue collar America is reading Dave Ramsey? Another
>> assumption?
>>
>> I have a lot of contact with blue collar workers, and if you tell them to
>> pray for their leaders they will just toss you off the high rise. These
>> guys
>> and gals are intelligent, they just work in a job that is not white
>> collar.
>> In talking to them, they know exactly what happened on Wall Street and
>> what
>> the deal was with the sub-prime borrowing.
>>
>> Here is a quote:
>>
>> "when you see a guy driving a Range Rover and he neva had a cah befoah,
>> and
>> he ain't neva had no money, how the !#@!% did he get it? Widda  loan dat
>> he
>> can't pay! Who the #^^$ was stoopid enough to give him a loan? Sheesh!
>> Anyway he and his cah disappeahed.
>>
>> Guranteed: All dialogue verbatim.
>>
>> They are blue collar, not stupid.
>>
>> I recommend that you talk to Brad, he is in touch with the real BCA
>>
>> Andrew
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ben and Brad Show:
>>>
>>> Ben said,"
>>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>>>
>>> The above link is to my favorite NY Times main stream media columnist. 
>>> I
>>> like the way he thinks about the "bailout" issue.
>>>
>>> Brad said, "He got much of it right."
>>>
>>> Ben citation of the New York Times and its columnist is an issue for two
>>> reasons.  The New York Times once billed itself as printing all the new
>>> that
>>> is fit to print.  It lost that standard over the years and the rest of
>>> the
>>> country recognizes it.  It has lost its credibility.
>>>
>>> Secondly, the New York Times is solidly main stream media as Ben said.
>>>  This
>>> means that reasonable people in the other parts of the country 
>>> understand
>>> that what ever it prints, it is biased reporting.  So even when as Brad
>>> says, "He got much of it right", its veracity is questioned by the rest
>>> of
>>> the country.
>>> Ben has coalesced into the Northeast Pseudo Elitist mold.   This type of
>>> reasoning is exemplified by Chris Mattews.  Specifically that is put 
>>> down
>>> 'Blue Collar' America, because I have more than a high school education 
>>> I
>>> understand better and more.
>>>
>>> Blue Collar America does not read nor will it accept advice [even if it
>>> good] from the New York Times.
>>> Here is where Blue Collar America is getting it ideas on the situation
>>> from:
>>>
>>>
http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/fed_bailout/3_steps_to_change_the_nations_futu
re_10928.htmlc?ictid=mlfrnd
>>>
>>> Now a read of David Brooks column cited shows that he has read George
>>> Soros
>>> books and his thinking is influenced by Soros's concepts of capital 
>>> flow.
>>> Why has no major media interview Soros?  That is a big mistake and lost
>>> opportunity.
>>>
>>> And the White House failed in not inviting Buffet and Soros to get their
>>> perspective and ideas.  Because you seek advice does mean you have to
>>> follow
>>> it.  But do get some good advice and not insider advice from Goldman
>>> Sachs
>>> via Hank Paulson.  (Goldman Sach is openly supporting your opposition, 
>>> so
>>> why would they give you the best advice?).
>>>
>>> Brad, thank you for pointing out that the old lack luster McCain has
>>> looked
>>> at the accounting issues and spoke about them.  Whereas Obama has
>>> developed
>>> an elitist attitude that is to let others decide.  Obama has 
>>> demonstrated
>>> a
>>> real lack of understanding and leadership.  It seems that he does not
>>> have
>>> even average intelligence.
>>>
>>> This guy is a real example of Elmer Gantry, Jim Baker and other con men.
>>> If
>>> Obama was an army second lieutenant in combat he would have been fragged
>>> a
>>> long time ago.  He is a phony leader, a false god image.
>>>
>>> Ed K
>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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