[Rhodes22-list] Dave Ramsey!????Political)

[Brad Haslett]

Andrew,

"These guys and gals are intelligent, they just work in a job that is
not white collar."

Thank you.  No one goes through life without issues with their father
(unless you're Obama and have to create the issues with a pseudo
fiction auto-biography).  My father came home from WW2 and worked his
entire life in construction and the oil field.  I can remember a
winter or two where I wished Dad was a little less concerned about the
safety and welfare of his co-workers and more concerned about ME,
freezing our asses off because "times were hard and money was tight".
When a local teacher was under fire for being accused of being "gay",
I kind of wanted my dad to head back to the oil fields and quit
worrying about "values". When Mom suddenly was suddenly rendered
unemployable due to her arthritis during my first semester in college,
a call from Dad saying everything is "OK" would have been more welcome
than the real message, "Son, I'm doing what I have to do, you do the
same".

Never underestimate the wisdom of the "average" blue collar worker!

Brad

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Collins
<sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ed
>
> How do you know blue collar America is reading Dave Ramsey? Another
> assumption?
>
> I have a lot of contact with blue collar workers, and if you tell them to
> pray for their leaders they will just toss you off the high rise. These guys
> and gals are intelligent, they just work in a job that is not white collar.
> In talking to them, they know exactly what happened on Wall Street and what
> the deal was with the sub-prime borrowing.
>
> Here is a quote:
>
> "when you see a guy driving a Range Rover and he neva had a cah befoah, and
> he ain't neva had no money, how the !#@!% did he get it? Widda  loan dat he
> can't pay! Who the #^^$ was stoopid enough to give him a loan? Sheesh!
> Anyway he and his cah disappeahed.
>
> Guranteed: All dialogue verbatim.
>
> They are blue collar, not stupid.
>
> I recommend that you talk to Brad, he is in touch with the real BCA
>
> Andrew
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ben and Brad Show:
>>
>> Ben said,"
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>>
>> The above link is to my favorite NY Times main stream media columnist.  I
>> like the way he thinks about the "bailout" issue.
>>
>> Brad said, "He got much of it right."
>>
>> Ben citation of the New York Times and its columnist is an issue for two
>> reasons.  The New York Times once billed itself as printing all the new
>> that
>> is fit to print.  It lost that standard over the years and the rest of the
>> country recognizes it.  It has lost its credibility.
>>
>> Secondly, the New York Times is solidly main stream media as Ben said.
>>  This
>> means that reasonable people in the other parts of the country understand
>> that what ever it prints, it is biased reporting.  So even when as Brad
>> says, "He got much of it right", its veracity is questioned by the rest of
>> the country.
>> Ben has coalesced into the Northeast Pseudo Elitist mold.   This type of
>> reasoning is exemplified by Chris Mattews.  Specifically that is put down
>> 'Blue Collar' America, because I have more than a high school education I
>> understand better and more.
>>
>> Blue Collar America does not read nor will it accept advice [even if it
>> good] from the New York Times.
>> Here is where Blue Collar America is getting it ideas on the situation
>> from:
>>
>> http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/fed_bailout/3_steps_to_change_the_nations_future_10928.htmlc?ictid=mlfrnd
>>
>> Now a read of David Brooks column cited shows that he has read George Soros
>> books and his thinking is influenced by Soros's concepts of capital flow.
>> Why has no major media interview Soros?  That is a big mistake and lost
>> opportunity.
>>
>> And the White House failed in not inviting Buffet and Soros to get their
>> perspective and ideas.  Because you seek advice does mean you have to
>> follow
>> it.  But do get some good advice and not insider advice from Goldman Sachs
>> via Hank Paulson.  (Goldman Sach is openly supporting your opposition, so
>> why would they give you the best advice?).
>>
>> Brad, thank you for pointing out that the old lack luster McCain has looked
>> at the accounting issues and spoke about them.  Whereas Obama has developed
>> an elitist attitude that is to let others decide.  Obama has demonstrated a
>> real lack of understanding and leadership.  It seems that he does not have
>> even average intelligence.
>>
>> This guy is a real example of Elmer Gantry, Jim Baker and other con men. If
>> Obama was an army second lieutenant in combat he would have been fragged a
>> long time ago.  He is a phony leader, a false god image.
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>
>>
>>
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