[Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
Caesar Paul
caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 2 15:05:13 EDT 2008
Mary Lou,
That's a good one. Lets hope that launch is not done often, and not in salt water.
The work involved in washing off that salt water from a vehicle is greater than using the extension bar in my mind, to say nothing of the risk involved in salt entering one differential, and speeding up the erosion of other metal parts.
The video clip demonstrates the value of the extension bar on our trailer, should it be needed for a dry launch.
Caesar
Gentle Breeze
1984 Recycled in 08
--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:13 AM
When we used to launch with our Chevy Blazer, we always had the
tailpipe bubbling. Never seemed to do any damage, never stalled. We
would have just the very end of the tailpipe in the water.
Once saw a guy at a lake in NJ launching a small boat with a SAAB
sedan. He had some sort of flexible tubing attached to his tail pipe
with a hose clamp. The tubing was attached to a frame that held the
open end way above the trunk of the car. He backed WAY in.
Of course I've also seen the pictures of guys who ended up launching
their pickup when they backed in too far and it did stall. Or you
could launch your R22 like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6k40iyvH4&feature=related
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
At 12:47 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
>Rummy,
>
>Good question.
>
>Now you got me thinking, I guess the pressure of the water in the
>exhaust pipe would have to be greater then the pressure of the
>exhaust gas coming out of the pipe to cause any problems, like
>choking the engine and causing it to stall.
>
>What has been your experience in submerging an exhaust pipe while
>launching a boat, as you can see I've never ventured that deep?
>
>Caesar
>
>Caesar
>
>--- On Wed, 10/1/08, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
wrote:
>
>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:54 PM
>
>Caesar,
>Why would you have to stop when the exhaust pipe starts to belch?
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>Ben,
>
>I have had my boat for about 4 months now and have launched and retrieved
>weekly for the first two months. I have launched without, and with the
>extension. It has been easier for me to extend the bar after I unhitch
from
>the tow
>vehicle.
>
>Both the angle of the ramp, and the height of the tow vehicle dictate
>whether you use the extender or not. I have been able to launch on all my
>ramps
>without using the extension bar. The rear wheels got wet, and,
>regardless of
>your vehicle, you would need to stop when your exhaust pipe begins to
belch.
>
>Caesar
>Gentle Breeze
>1984 Recycled 2008
>
>--- On Wed, 10/1/08, ben <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
wrote:
>
>From: ben <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:07 AM
>
>Do most of you find that you need the extension bar? My normal launch
gets
>deep enough fast enough that I don't need to use it at all.
>
>Ben S.
>R22 Velvet Elvis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:57 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>
>Andrew,
>
>I have played the same game of "catch the pin" many times.
Proper
>adjustment of the trailer height using the trailer jack and lots of fresh
>grease on the tongue extension make the job much easier, whether the car
is
>used or you do it by hand. My new extension tongue is slightly longer (1
>foot) and has a stop fixed to the end to prevent pulling it all the way
out,
>
>just in case.
>
>We used to launch or retrieve in 30-45 minutes with a trained crew of 3-4.
>Now, my wife and I are able to accomplish the task in about an hour or so,
>including rigging while on the water. I found that I spent too much time
>climbing up and down the boat while still on the trailer to rig. We just
>extend the tongue, launch, VERIFY NO LEAKS, motor out, drop the hook, step
>the mast and rig in the river. Now we have no overheads to worry about
>while on the trailer.
>
>If you require help, we are in Kings Park, probably not that far from you.
>
>Mike
>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>From: "Andrew Collins"
<sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>Sent:
>Wednesday,
>October 01, 2008 11:35 AM
> > Wally
> >
> > The extension bar is a real help in launching and retrieving, the
only
> > catch
> > is sliding it in and out and lining up the fast-pin holes while you
are
> > driving. This is especially aggravating if you are alone. The easy
> > solution
> > we came up with is to pull the extension bar out by hand, re-hitch
it to
> > the
> > tow vehicle and proceed to launch, or vice versa.
> >
> > A little game has evolved out of this as well if there is a driver
and a
> > fast-pin inserter: slowly drive forward pulling the extension bar
out
> > (with
> > the trailer chocked!), fast-pin guy yelling 'slow',
SLOWER",
>GOT IT! as
> > the
> > holes appear. As with all things, practice makes perfect. Pretty
soon
> > you'll
> > know exactly where that hole is inside the front support sleeve.
> >
> > Too many of us launch and retrieve alone, and one gets pretty good
at a
> > lot
> > of things. It goes much faster with an extra pair of hands, and then
>there
> > is a good reason to crack a cold one.
> >
> > Andrew
> > s/v Carmen
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe Babb
<joe.babb at comcast.net>
>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Wally,
> >> Sharon and I trailer sail our Rhodes 22. We find that extending
the
> >> trailer tongue to launch and retrieve is the most
> >> aggravating thing about it. Otherwise things go quite smoothly
with
>the
> >> mast hoist system. It just takes time and patience.
> >> It takes us about 1.5 to 2 hours to rig and launch. That's
from
>parking
> >> at the launch ramp to parking the truck and
> >> trailer. The best tip is to minimize the amount of time you
spend
> >> getting on and off the boat through planning your
> >> work. We tow with a Chevy 2500 Silverado. We usually get 16
-18 mpg
>on
> >> the highway without towing. On the way
> >> back across the Smoky Mountains from Edenton we got about 12 mpg
>average
> >> towing the Rhodes.
> >> Going up steep hills usually slows us down to 40 or 45. We
found the
> >> boat tows well at 55 mph.
> >> So far, I've always just jumped in the water and led Harmony
>onto
>the
> >> trailer. The trailer extension is a pain, but also
> >> very nice as it gets you far enough into the water to avoid
having
>to
> >> use muscle power to launch.
> >> Hope this helps.
> >> Joe
> >>
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