[Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Thu Oct 2 17:55:52 EDT 2008


OK, one of you mechanical types tell me how that engine kept running 
when it was completely submerged. Did he have a hose or something for 
the intake?

Mary Lou Troy wrote:
> When we used to launch with our Chevy Blazer, we always had the 
> tailpipe bubbling. Never seemed to do any damage, never stalled. We 
> would have just the very end of the tailpipe in the water.
>
> Once saw a guy at a lake in NJ launching a small boat with a SAAB 
> sedan. He had some sort of flexible tubing attached to his tail pipe 
> with a hose clamp. The tubing was attached to a frame that held the 
> open end way above the trunk of the car. He backed WAY in.
>
> Of course I've also seen the pictures of guys who ended up launching 
> their pickup when they backed in too far and it did stall. Or you 
> could launch your R22 like this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6k40iyvH4&feature=related
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 12:47 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Good question.
>>
>> Now you got me thinking, I guess the pressure of the water in the 
>> exhaust pipe would have to be greater then the pressure of the 
>> exhaust gas coming out of the pipe to cause any problems, like 
>> choking the engine and causing it to stall.
>>
>> What has been your experience in submerging an exhaust pipe while 
>> launching a boat, as you can see I've never ventured that deep?
>>
>> Caesar
>>
>> Caesar
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:54 PM
>>
>> Caesar,
>> Why would you have to stop when the exhaust pipe starts to belch?
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I have had my boat for about 4 months now and have  launched and retrieved
>> weekly for the first two months.  I have launched  without, and with the
>> extension.  It has been easier for me to extend the  bar after I unhitch from
>> the tow
>> vehicle.
>>
>> Both the angle of the  ramp, and the height of the tow vehicle dictate
>> whether you use the extender  or not.  I have been able to launch on all my
>> ramps
>> without using the  extension bar.  The rear wheels got wet, and, 
>> regardless of
>> your  vehicle, you would need to stop when your exhaust pipe begins to  belch.
>>
>> Caesar
>> Gentle Breeze
>> 1984 Recycled  2008
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, ben  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: ben  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Extension bar use
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:07  AM
>>
>> Do most of you find that you need the extension bar?  My normal  launch gets
>> deep enough fast enough that I don't need to use it at  all.
>>
>> Ben S.
>> R22 Velvet Elvis
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:57  AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension  bar use
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I have played the same game of "catch the pin"  many times.  Proper
>> adjustment of the trailer height using the  trailer jack and lots of fresh
>> grease on the tongue extension make the job  much easier, whether the car is
>> used or you do it by hand.  My new  extension tongue is slightly longer (1
>> foot) and has a stop fixed to the  end to prevent pulling it all the way out,
>>
>> just in case.
>>
>> We used  to launch or retrieve in 30-45 minutes with a trained crew of 3-4.
>> Now, my  wife and I are able to accomplish the task in about an hour or so,
>> including rigging while on the water.  I found that I spent too much  time
>> climbing up and down the boat while still on the trailer to rig. We  just
>> extend the tongue, launch, VERIFY NO LEAKS, motor out, drop the hook,  step
>> the mast and rig in the river.  Now we have no overheads to  worry about
>> while on the trailer.
>>
>> If you require help, we are in  Kings Park, probably not that far from you.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>> From: "Andrew Collins"  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>Sent:
>> Wednesday,
>> October 01, 2008  11:35 AM
>>     
>>> Wally
>>>
>>> The extension bar is a real help in  launching and retrieving, the only
>>> catch
>>> is sliding it in and  out and lining up the fast-pin holes while you are
>>> driving. This is  especially aggravating if you are alone. The easy
>>> solution
>>> we  came up with is to pull the extension bar out by hand, re-hitch it to
>>>  the
>>> tow vehicle and proceed to launch, or vice versa.
>>>
>>>  A little game has evolved out of this as well if there is a driver and  a
>>> fast-pin inserter: slowly drive forward pulling the extension bar  out
>>> (with
>>> the trailer chocked!), fast-pin guy yelling 'slow',  SLOWER",
>>>       
>> GOT IT! as
>>     
>>> the
>>> holes appear. As with all things,  practice makes perfect. Pretty soon
>>> you'll
>>> know exactly where  that hole is inside the front support sleeve.
>>>
>>> Too many of us  launch and retrieve alone, and one gets pretty good at a
>>> lot
>>>  of things. It goes much faster with an extra pair of hands, and then
>>>       
>> there
>>     
>>> is a good reason to crack a cold one.
>>>
>>>  Andrew
>>> s/v Carmen
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe  Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>> Hi  Wally,
>>>> Sharon and I trailer sail our Rhodes 22.  We find that  extending the
>>>> trailer tongue to launch and retrieve is the  most
>>>> aggravating thing about it.  Otherwise things go quite  smoothly with
>>>>         
>> the
>>     
>>>> mast hoist system.  It just takes time  and patience.
>>>> It takes us about 1.5 to 2 hours to rig and  launch.  That's from
>>>>         
>> parking
>>     
>>>> at the launch ramp to parking  the truck and
>>>> trailer.  The best tip is to minimize the  amount of time you spend
>>>> getting on and off the boat through  planning your
>>>> work.  We tow with a Chevy 2500  Silverado.  We usually get 16 -18 mpg
>>>>         
>> on
>>     
>>>> the highway  without towing.  On the way
>>>> back across the Smoky Mountains  from Edenton we got about 12 mpg
>>>>         
>> average
>>     
>>>> towing the  Rhodes.
>>>> Going up steep hills usually slows us down to 40 or  45.  We found the
>>>> boat tows well at 55 mph.
>>>> So  far, I've always just jumped in the water and led Harmony
>>>>         
>> onto
>> the
>>     
>>>> trailer.  The trailer extension is a pain, but  also
>>>> very nice as it gets you far  enough into the water to  avoid having
>>>>         
>> to
>>     
>>>> use muscle power to launch.
>>>> Hope this  helps.
>>>> Joe
>>>>
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