[Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
Michael D. Weisner
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Thu Oct 2 23:34:31 EDT 2008
Herb,
I isolated the attached image (all the way down at the bottom of the email,
tractor.jpg) from the video. I think that it clearly shows a raised air
intake filter (circled.) While I don't think that it is a good idea, it
surely keeps the engine running.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>Sent: Thursday, October 02,
2008 5:55 PM
> OK, one of you mechanical types tell me how that engine kept running
> when it was completely submerged. Did he have a hose or something for
> the intake?
>
> Mary Lou Troy wrote:
>> When we used to launch with our Chevy Blazer, we always had the
>> tailpipe bubbling. Never seemed to do any damage, never stalled. We
>> would have just the very end of the tailpipe in the water.
>>
>> Once saw a guy at a lake in NJ launching a small boat with a SAAB
>> sedan. He had some sort of flexible tubing attached to his tail pipe
>> with a hose clamp. The tubing was attached to a frame that held the
>> open end way above the trunk of the car. He backed WAY in.
>>
>> Of course I've also seen the pictures of guys who ended up launching
>> their pickup when they backed in too far and it did stall. Or you
>> could launch your R22 like this:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6k40iyvH4&feature=related
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>> At 12:47 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> Rummy,
>>>
>>> Good question.
>>>
>>> Now you got me thinking, I guess the pressure of the water in the
>>> exhaust pipe would have to be greater then the pressure of the
>>> exhaust gas coming out of the pipe to cause any problems, like
>>> choking the engine and causing it to stall.
>>>
>>> What has been your experience in submerging an exhaust pipe while
>>> launching a boat, as you can see I've never ventured that deep?
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:54 PM
>>>
>>> Caesar,
>>> Why would you have to stop when the exhaust pipe starts to belch?
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> I have had my boat for about 4 months now and have launched and
>>> retrieved
>>> weekly for the first two months. I have launched without, and with the
>>> extension. It has been easier for me to extend the bar after I unhitch
>>> from
>>> the tow
>>> vehicle.
>>>
>>> Both the angle of the ramp, and the height of the tow vehicle dictate
>>> whether you use the extender or not. I have been able to launch on all
>>> my
>>> ramps
>>> without using the extension bar. The rear wheels got wet, and,
>>> regardless of
>>> your vehicle, you would need to stop when your exhaust pipe begins to
>>> belch.
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>> Gentle Breeze
>>> 1984 Recycled 2008
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, ben <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: ben <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:07 AM
>>>
>>> Do most of you find that you need the extension bar? My normal launch
>>> gets
>>> deep enough fast enough that I don't need to use it at all.
>>>
>>> Ben S.
>>> R22 Velvet Elvis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D.
>>> Weisner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:57 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> I have played the same game of "catch the pin" many times. Proper
>>> adjustment of the trailer height using the trailer jack and lots of
>>> fresh
>>> grease on the tongue extension make the job much easier, whether the
>>> car is
>>> used or you do it by hand. My new extension tongue is slightly longer
>>> (1
>>> foot) and has a stop fixed to the end to prevent pulling it all the way
>>> out,
>>>
>>> just in case.
>>>
>>> We used to launch or retrieve in 30-45 minutes with a trained crew of
>>> 3-4.
>>> Now, my wife and I are able to accomplish the task in about an hour or
>>> so,
>>> including rigging while on the water. I found that I spent too much
>>> time
>>> climbing up and down the boat while still on the trailer to rig. We
>>> just
>>> extend the tongue, launch, VERIFY NO LEAKS, motor out, drop the hook,
>>> step
>>> the mast and rig in the river. Now we have no overheads to worry about
>>> while on the trailer.
>>>
>>> If you require help, we are in Kings Park, probably not that far from
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Andrew Collins" <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>Sent:
>>> Wednesday,
>>> October 01, 2008 11:35 AM
>>>
>>>> Wally
>>>>
>>>> The extension bar is a real help in launching and retrieving, the only
>>>> catch
>>>> is sliding it in and out and lining up the fast-pin holes while you
>>>> are
>>>> driving. This is especially aggravating if you are alone. The easy
>>>> solution
>>>> we came up with is to pull the extension bar out by hand, re-hitch it
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>> tow vehicle and proceed to launch, or vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> A little game has evolved out of this as well if there is a driver and
>>>> a
>>>> fast-pin inserter: slowly drive forward pulling the extension bar out
>>>> (with
>>>> the trailer chocked!), fast-pin guy yelling 'slow', SLOWER",
>>>>
>>> GOT IT! as
>>>
>>>> the
>>>> holes appear. As with all things, practice makes perfect. Pretty soon
>>>> you'll
>>>> know exactly where that hole is inside the front support sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Too many of us launch and retrieve alone, and one gets pretty good at
>>>> a
>>>> lot
>>>> of things. It goes much faster with an extra pair of hands, and then
>>>>
>>> there
>>>
>>>> is a good reason to crack a cold one.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>> s/v Carmen
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi Wally,
>>>>> Sharon and I trailer sail our Rhodes 22. We find that extending the
>>>>> trailer tongue to launch and retrieve is the most
>>>>> aggravating thing about it. Otherwise things go quite smoothly with
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> mast hoist system. It just takes time and patience.
>>>>> It takes us about 1.5 to 2 hours to rig and launch. That's from
>>>>>
>>> parking
>>>
>>>>> at the launch ramp to parking the truck and
>>>>> trailer. The best tip is to minimize the amount of time you spend
>>>>> getting on and off the boat through planning your
>>>>> work. We tow with a Chevy 2500 Silverado. We usually get 16 -18 mpg
>>>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>>> the highway without towing. On the way
>>>>> back across the Smoky Mountains from Edenton we got about 12 mpg
>>>>>
>>> average
>>>
>>>>> towing the Rhodes.
>>>>> Going up steep hills usually slows us down to 40 or 45. We found the
>>>>> boat tows well at 55 mph.
>>>>> So far, I've always just jumped in the water and led Harmony
>>>>>
>>> onto
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> trailer. The trailer extension is a pain, but also
>>>>> very nice as it gets you far enough into the water to avoid having
>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>> use muscle power to launch.
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
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