[Rhodes22-list] Political - Slick Willie, now Slick Bennie C.

[Brad Haslett]

Ed,

Obama is a liar.

Where to begin with that statement?  Did Obama associate with Rev.
Wright for 20 years because he believed in his message or because it
was to his political advantage?  I'll give him the benefit of the
doubt and say it was purely politics, however disgusting that may be.
Either way, Obama is lying that he didn't hear the vile things that
were spewed from that pulpit on a weekly basis.

Did Obama associate with Bill Ayers because he believed as Ayers did?
The Bill Ayers who is unrepentant about his domestic terrorism and
said on 9/11/01 in the New York Times he didn't bomb enough.  I'll
give Obama the benefit of the doubt and assume it was purely politics.

Did Obama associate with Tony Rezko, known Chicago Machine political
"bagman" and slum lord because Obama needed the money for his
political career, or did Obama believe that Rezko's failed housing
projects were creating a "greater good".  I'll give Obama the benefit
of the doubt and assume it was purely politics.

Did Obama promise American taxpayers that 95% would receive a tax
break under an Obama  administration when it is mathematically
impossible to do so?  The lowest 38% pay no income tax whatsoever.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was purely
politics.

Let's assume for a moment that I'm not a partisan and am deciding
whether or not to vote for Obama.  Which one should I vote for, the
Obama of January 2008 or the Obama of October 2008?

There's only so many benefits one can give another person before it
becomes self-destructive behavior.

Brad

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Ben said in a snide remark without specific documentation:  "If it were
> reliably proved that Obama was corrupt of course it would be a deal breaker
> for me.  But remember McCain has his Abramoff too."
>
> So what are the specific Abramoff relationships to John McCain?  And how
> were they handled?
>
> I would point out to a military father, that Obama spent twenty years in a
> pew that spewed Anti-American Rhetoric.  When confronted with tapes, Obama
> said he never heard that stuff?
>
> A look at the church's web page before Obama won his first primary
> demonstrated specific references to the church's preaching.  It is for the
> most part gone now, but he had to know the gist of what was there.
>
> Obama is a liar.
>
> And this is the Commander in Chief you want for your son?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Addendum:
>  Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation By Anthony B. Bradley
>
> One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of Christ,
> is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased
> with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of controversial
> comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the
> most alarming. The code language "economic parity" and references to
> "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic
> views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have explicitly stated a
> preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because
> Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus
> victim class (blacks).
>
> Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked
> diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the 1970s.
> For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of Blacks as
> victims of White oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the
> Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the
> structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose
> the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see
> how things really are."
>
> In God of the Oppressed, Cone said that Marx's chief contribution is "his
> disclosure of the ideological character of bourgeois thought, indicating the
> connections between the 'ruling material force of society' and the 'ruling
> intellectual' force." Marx's thought is useful and attractive to Cone
> because it allows Black theologians to critique racism in America on the
> basis of power and revolution.
>
> For Cone, integrating Marx into Black theology helps theologians see just
> how much social perceptions determine theological questions and conclusions.
> Moreover, these questions and answers are "largely a reflection of the
> material condition of a given society."
>
> In 1979, Cornel West offered a critical integration of Marxism and Black
> theology in his essay, "Black Theology and Marxist Thought" because of the
> shared human experience of oppressed peoples as victims. West sees a strong
> correlation between Black theology and Marxist thought because "both focus
> on the plight of the exploited, oppressed and degraded peoples of the world,
> their relative powerlessness and possible empowerment." This common focus
> prompts West to call for "a serious dialogue between Black theologians and
> Marxist thinkers"--a dialogue that centers on the possibility of "mutually
> arrived-at political action."
>
> In his book Prophesy Deliverance, West believes that by working together,
> Marxists and Black theologians can spearhead much-needed social change for
> those who are victims of oppression. He appreciates Marxism for its "notions
> of class struggle, social contradictions, historical specificity, and
> dialectical developments in history" that explain the role of power and
> wealth in bourgeois capitalist societies. A common perspective among Marxist
> thinkers is that bourgeois capitalism creates and perpetuates ruling-class
> domination--which, for Black theologians in America, means the domination
> and victimization of Blacks by Whites. American has been over run by "White
> racism within mainstream establishment churches and religious agencies,"
> writes West.
>
> Perhaps it is the Marxism imbedded in Obama's attending Trinity Church that
> should raise red flags. "Economic parity" and "distribution" language
> implies things like government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual
> minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, and the
> like. One of the priorities listed on Obama's campaign website reads, "Obama
> will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he will
> reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers."
>
> Black Liberation Theology, originally intended to help the black community,
> may have actually hurt many blacks by promoting racial tension, victimology,
> and Marxism which ultimately leads to more oppression. As the failed "War on
> Poverty" has exposed, the best way to keep the blacks perpetually enslaved
> to government as "daddy" is to preach victimology, Marxism, and seduce
> blacks into thinking that upward mobility is someone else's responsibility
> in a free society.
>
> Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and
> assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St.
> Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation
> Theology."
>
>
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