[Rhodes22-list] Political - Slick Willie, now Slick Bennie C.

[Benjamin Cittadino]

Ed;

I don't know why you believe that my statement to Bill was "snide".  He
certainly didn't take it that way.  I know there is a great deal of
sarcastic back and forth in some political posts but when I said I would not
support a demonstrably corrupt candidate I meant it.

When I talked about  the CBS coverage of W's Texas Guard service you
launched into a paean to the skill and bravery of fighter pilots and
suggested I didn't have an appreciation for their service. You demanded that
I tell you what military service I had given (suggesting, I guess, that I
had none). I foolishly revealed my own service and told you about my son. I
now regret that because you have turned my very real fear for my son's
safety into a debating point.  You know Ed, I don't believe I have truly
understood until now the depths to which you will sink to make some stupid
point on this site.
As my boy's carrier approaches the war zone and he prepares to fly close air
support for our wonderful troops on the ground I have suddenly grown very
tired of you.  It is no longer at all impoortant to me what you think, and
our politcal debate  seems silly. Please do me one favor.
Leave references to my son out of your posts. 

Brad, thank you for your good wishes. It means a great deal to me that you
took a break from the debate to express the sentiments you expressed. I
appreciate it.

Best wishes;

Ben C.


"At long last, have you no sense of decency sir? Have you left no sense of
decency"- Joseph N. Welch, The Army-McCarthy Hearings 





Tootle wrote:
> 
> Ben said in a snide remark without specific documentation:  "If it were
> reliably proved that Obama was corrupt of course it would be a deal
> breaker for me.  But remember McCain has his Abramoff too."
> 
> So what are the specific Abramoff relationships to John McCain?  And how
> were they handled?
> 
> I would point out to a military father, that Obama spent twenty years in a
> pew that spewed Anti-American Rhetoric.  When confronted with tapes, Obama
> said he never heard that stuff?  
> 
> A look at the church's web page before Obama won his first primary
> demonstrated specific references to the church’s preaching.  It is for the
> most part gone now, but he had to know the gist of what was there.  
> 
> Obama is a liar.
> 
> And this is the Commander in Chief you want for your son? 
> 
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Addendum:
>  Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation By Anthony B. Bradley 
> 
> One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of
> Christ, is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is
> not pleased with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of
> controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth
> redistribution is the most alarming. The code language "economic parity"
> and references to "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the
> twisted economic views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have
> explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the
> black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of
> oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks). 
> 
> Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked
> diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the 1970s.
> For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of Blacks as
> victims of White oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the
> Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the
> structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose
> the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see
> how things really are." 
> 
> In God of the Oppressed, Cone said that Marx's chief contribution is "his
> disclosure of the ideological character of bourgeois thought, indicating
> the connections between the 'ruling material force of society' and the
> 'ruling intellectual' force." Marx's thought is useful and attractive to
> Cone because it allows Black theologians to critique racism in America on
> the basis of power and revolution. 
> 
> For Cone, integrating Marx into Black theology helps theologians see just
> how much social perceptions determine theological questions and
> conclusions. Moreover, these questions and answers are "largely a
> reflection of the material condition of a given society." 
> 
> In 1979, Cornel West offered a critical integration of Marxism and Black
> theology in his essay, "Black Theology and Marxist Thought" because of the
> shared human experience of oppressed peoples as victims. West sees a
> strong correlation between Black theology and Marxist thought because
> "both focus on the plight of the exploited, oppressed and degraded peoples
> of the world, their relative powerlessness and possible empowerment." This
> common focus prompts West to call for "a serious dialogue between Black
> theologians and Marxist thinkers"--a dialogue that centers on the
> possibility of "mutually arrived-at political action." 
> 
> In his book Prophesy Deliverance, West believes that by working together,
> Marxists and Black theologians can spearhead much-needed social change for
> those who are victims of oppression. He appreciates Marxism for its
> "notions of class struggle, social contradictions, historical specificity,
> and dialectical developments in history" that explain the role of power
> and wealth in bourgeois capitalist societies. A common perspective among
> Marxist thinkers is that bourgeois capitalism creates and perpetuates
> ruling-class domination--which, for Black theologians in America, means
> the domination and victimization of Blacks by Whites. American has been
> over run by "White racism within mainstream establishment churches and
> religious agencies," writes West. 
> 
> Perhaps it is the Marxism imbedded in Obama's attending Trinity Church
> that should raise red flags. "Economic parity" and "distribution" language
> implies things like government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual
> minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, and the
> like. One of the priorities listed on Obama's campaign website reads,
> "Obama will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he
> will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers." 
> 
> Black Liberation Theology, originally intended to help the black
> community, may have actually hurt many blacks by promoting racial tension,
> victimology, and Marxism which ultimately leads to more oppression. As the
> failed "War on Poverty" has exposed, the best way to keep the blacks
> perpetually enslaved to government as "daddy" is to preach victimology,
> Marxism, and seduce blacks into thinking that upward mobility is someone
> else's responsibility in a free society. 
> 
> Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and
> assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St.
> Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation
> Theology."
> 
> 
> 

-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Political---Slick-Willie%2C-now-Slick-Bennie-C.-tp19796861p19801093.html
Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.