[Rhodes22-list] USAttorneygate; the chickens come home to roost

Fri Oct 3 13:19:45 EDT 2008

Actually Alan, you are incorrect. Obviously, you are free to block 
whoever you choose, but your assertion the the list is "for sailors and 
sailing related correspondence, not members' political soapboxe rants 
which use up our storage room." is incorrect.

The list is what the list is, not what you wish it to be.

Side note - don't save the political rants, then it won't waste storage 
space.

Alan Robertson wrote:
> We have added you to our BLOCK SENDERS list.  The Rode 22 network is for sailors and sailing related correspondence, not members' political soapboxe rants which use up our storage room. Don't bother to reply. You are blocked.
>
> Bigal, Thor IV, Lake George NY
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Benjamin Cittadino<mailto:bigben65 at earthlink.net> 
>   To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>   Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] USAttorneygate; the chickens come home to roost
>
>
>
>   Bill & Rob & Ed;
>
>   Sen Obama has already said several times, in response to questions from
>   various reporters that Patrick Fitzgerald's job is safe.  I must say here
>   that I has been my understanding that the targets of Mr Fitzgeralds
>   inquiries have been Mr Rezko, and people other than Obama himself. He's very
>   discreet, any anybody who says they are sure he's looking at Obama (or not)
>   doesn't know what they're talking about.  
>
>   Bill's concern is well founded though.  I was in law school when Nixon fired
>   AG Richardson, then Dep AG Ruckelshaus for not firing Special Prosecutor Cox
>   (Robert Bork ultimately did it).  In response Nixon gave the famous "I am
>   not a crook" speech, and the move to impeachment became unstoppable. 
>
>   As to Ed's point, I've said it as many different ways as I know how.  If
>   Monica Goodling made hiring decisions at DOJ for non-political jobs based
>   upon political affiliation or perceived political loyalty she broke the law.
>   THAT'S WHY SHE RESIGNED IN DISGRACE. Remember?
>
>   And if the 9 US Attorney's were fired FOR ILLEGAL REASONS like not bringing
>   trumped up charges against politcal opponents of a particular US Senator,
>   then that's illegal and that's why AG Mukasey had no choice but to appoint a
>   special prosecutor.  He's done it, because not to do it would be an obvious
>   malfeasence; but he has given the Special Prosecutor an impossible 60 day
>   deadline to produce a report.  He's done the right thing with one hand but
>   ensured failure with the other hand.  That's why we need a clean sweep, a
>   new AG, and Truth, Justice and the American Way for all.  Thank you....thank
>   you very much ladies and gentlemen.
>
>   Best,
>
>   Ben C.
>
>   Bill Effros wrote:
>   > 
>   > Rob,
>   > 
>   > US Attorneys serve the President.  They can replace them if they choose 
>   > to do so.  But that was not the issue in this thread.
>   > 
>   > The issue here is "Chickens come home to roost" regarding the 
>   > replacement of US Attorneys.
>   > 
>   > So I ask again,
>   > 
>   > Is it OK for Obama to request the resignation of a well respected US 
>   > Attorney who is currently investigating Obama?
>   > 
>   > What are the perceived rules in this instance?
>   > 
>   > Bill Effros
>   > 
>   >  
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Lowe, Rob wrote:
>   >> Isn't it "traditional" (OK, not the right word) for all the US attorneys
>   >> to submit their resignations at the beginning of a president's new term?
>   >> Or is it just a new president taking office?  Regardless, why wouldn't
>   >> Fitzgerald submit his resignation along with the rest of the US
>   >> attorneys?
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> -----Original Message-----
>   >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
>   >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>   >> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:15 AM
>   >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>   >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] USAttorneygate; the chickens come home to
>   >> roost
>   >>
>   >> Ben,
>   >>
>   >> How do you think Obama will handle Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald
>   >>
>   >> (also on the Bush "to be fired" list -- special prosecutor in the 
>   >> Valerie Plame CIA leak case) who is currently investigating Barack
>   >> Obama?
>   >>
>   >> Do you think it is is OK for Obama to fire Fitzgerald?
>   >>
>   >> Bill Effros
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
>   >>   
>   >>> Brad & Anybody still paying attention;
>   >>>
>   >>> The link to a NYTimes editorial explains in precise detail how the
>   >>>     
>   >> firings
>   >>   
>   >>> by the Bush administration of a number of federal prosecutors is a
>   >>>     
>   >> serious
>   >>   
>   >>> matter that cried out for the appointment of a special prosecutor.
>   >>>     
>   >> Note the
>   >>   
>   >>> desciption of the firings being unrelated to and not he result of any
>   >>> performance reviews. This issue goes to the very heart of federal law
>   >>> enforcement, and, in my opinion, compels a change to an Obama
>   >>>     
>   >> administration
>   >>   
>   >>> which will ensure the inquiry survives after January.
>   >>>
>   >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/opinion/01wed1.html?hp<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/opinion/01wed1.html?hp>
>   >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/opinion/01wed1.html?hp<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/opinion/01wed1.html?hp> 
>   >>>
>   >>> Cheers!
>   >>>
>   >>> Ben C.
>   >>>   
>   >>>     
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