[Rhodes22-list] Political - Slick Willie, now Slick Bennie C.

[TN Rhodey]

Ben, I come and go on the list so I never got a chance to welcome you. I am
glad to have you aboard and offer best wishes to your son and his crew
mates. I offer no explanation for Ed other than the list is tolerant and we
have low standards.

Fair winds,  Wally



On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Cittadino
<bigben65 at earthlink.net>wrote:

>
> Ed;
>
> I don't know why you believe that my statement to Bill was "snide".  He
> certainly didn't take it that way.  I know there is a great deal of
> sarcastic back and forth in some political posts but when I said I would
> not
> support a demonstrably corrupt candidate I meant it.
>
> When I talked about  the CBS coverage of W's Texas Guard service you
> launched into a paean to the skill and bravery of fighter pilots and
> suggested I didn't have an appreciation for their service. You demanded
> that
> I tell you what military service I had given (suggesting, I guess, that I
> had none). I foolishly revealed my own service and told you about my son. I
> now regret that because you have turned my very real fear for my son's
> safety into a debating point.  You know Ed, I don't believe I have truly
> understood until now the depths to which you will sink to make some stupid
> point on this site.
> As my boy's carrier approaches the war zone and he prepares to fly close
> air
> support for our wonderful troops on the ground I have suddenly grown very
> tired of you.  It is no longer at all impoortant to me what you think, and
> our politcal debate  seems silly. Please do me one favor.
> Leave references to my son out of your posts.
>
> Brad, thank you for your good wishes. It means a great deal to me that you
> took a break from the debate to express the sentiments you expressed. I
> appreciate it.
>
> Best wishes;
>
> Ben C.
>
>
> "At long last, have you no sense of decency sir? Have you left no sense of
> decency"- Joseph N. Welch, The Army-McCarthy Hearings
>
>
>
>
>
> Tootle wrote:
> >
> > Ben said in a snide remark without specific documentation:  "If it were
> > reliably proved that Obama was corrupt of course it would be a deal
> > breaker for me.  But remember McCain has his Abramoff too."
> >
> > So what are the specific Abramoff relationships to John McCain?  And how
> > were they handled?
> >
> > I would point out to a military father, that Obama spent twenty years in
> a
> > pew that spewed Anti-American Rhetoric.  When confronted with tapes,
> Obama
> > said he never heard that stuff?
> >
> > A look at the church's web page before Obama won his first primary
> > demonstrated specific references to the church's preaching.  It is for
> the
> > most part gone now, but he had to know the gist of what was there.
> >
> > Obama is a liar.
> >
> > And this is the Commander in Chief you want for your son?
> >
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:
> >  Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation By Anthony B. Bradley
> >
> > One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of
> > Christ, is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is
> > not pleased with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of
> > controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth
> > redistribution is the most alarming. The code language "economic parity"
> > and references to "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the
> > twisted economic views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have
> > explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for
> the
> > black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of
> > oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).
> >
> > Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked
> > diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the
> 1970s.
> > For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of Blacks as
> > victims of White oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the
> > Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing
> the
> > structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can
> disclose
> > the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to
> see
> > how things really are."
> >
> > In God of the Oppressed, Cone said that Marx's chief contribution is "his
> > disclosure of the ideological character of bourgeois thought, indicating
> > the connections between the 'ruling material force of society' and the
> > 'ruling intellectual' force." Marx's thought is useful and attractive to
> > Cone because it allows Black theologians to critique racism in America on
> > the basis of power and revolution.
> >
> > For Cone, integrating Marx into Black theology helps theologians see just
> > how much social perceptions determine theological questions and
> > conclusions. Moreover, these questions and answers are "largely a
> > reflection of the material condition of a given society."
> >
> > In 1979, Cornel West offered a critical integration of Marxism and Black
> > theology in his essay, "Black Theology and Marxist Thought" because of
> the
> > shared human experience of oppressed peoples as victims. West sees a
> > strong correlation between Black theology and Marxist thought because
> > "both focus on the plight of the exploited, oppressed and degraded
> peoples
> > of the world, their relative powerlessness and possible empowerment."
> This
> > common focus prompts West to call for "a serious dialogue between Black
> > theologians and Marxist thinkers"--a dialogue that centers on the
> > possibility of "mutually arrived-at political action."
> >
> > In his book Prophesy Deliverance, West believes that by working together,
> > Marxists and Black theologians can spearhead much-needed social change
> for
> > those who are victims of oppression. He appreciates Marxism for its
> > "notions of class struggle, social contradictions, historical
> specificity,
> > and dialectical developments in history" that explain the role of power
> > and wealth in bourgeois capitalist societies. A common perspective among
> > Marxist thinkers is that bourgeois capitalism creates and perpetuates
> > ruling-class domination--which, for Black theologians in America, means
> > the domination and victimization of Blacks by Whites. American has been
> > over run by "White racism within mainstream establishment churches and
> > religious agencies," writes West.
> >
> > Perhaps it is the Marxism imbedded in Obama's attending Trinity Church
> > that should raise red flags. "Economic parity" and "distribution"
> language
> > implies things like government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual
> > minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, and
> the
> > like. One of the priorities listed on Obama's campaign website reads,
> > "Obama will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he
> > will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers."
> >
> > Black Liberation Theology, originally intended to help the black
> > community, may have actually hurt many blacks by promoting racial
> tension,
> > victimology, and Marxism which ultimately leads to more oppression. As
> the
> > failed "War on Poverty" has exposed, the best way to keep the blacks
> > perpetually enslaved to government as "daddy" is to preach victimology,
> > Marxism, and seduce blacks into thinking that upward mobility is someone
> > else's responsibility in a free society.
> >
> > Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and
> > assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St.
> > Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation
> > Theology."
> >
> >
> >
>
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