[Rhodes22-list] Stan on Pointing

[stan]

Bill,

thanks for the note - you obviously know as much or more than I do about 
pointing.   I wish Lee would try the weight shift test and report his 
results.

we will eventually get to the boom room inventorying - maybe after 
Annapolis.

tell me you really are not voting for John Bush and his back up if he 
doesn't last the 4 rounds,  who had that voodoo fellow lay his hands on her 
to purge her witch side.

ss/ec

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan on Pointing


> Stan,
>
> I know absolutely nothing about pointing, and I'm planning to learn
> about it on my boat next year.
>
> It seems different people on this list mean different things by the term
> "pointing".
>
> Peter refers me to my GPS, which measures the direction the GPS has
> traveled.
>
> Others refer me to my compass, which measures the direction the bow is
> "pointing".
>
> Others speak of how well catamarans "point" while some of the literature
> I read says they don't point as well as mono-hulled boats.
>
> I have never noticed a pointing problem on my boat.
>
> I can point directly into the wind...Of course, I sail backward when I
> do that, so this skill is useful only in certain situations.  As I point
> closer and closer into the wind, I go slower and slower, until I begin
> to think "maybe I would arrive at my destination faster if I took a
> longer route with more favorable wind."  I understand this to be the
> central issue in racing.
>
> When you heave-to you can cause your bow to "point" almost any angle
> into the wind, while the boat itself slips sideways.  Unable to point by
> one definition, great pointing by another.
>
> Instead of simply moving a lot of junk forward, I have removed a lot of
> junk from my boat.  It sails very high in the water, bow down.  I have a
> light engine, and I keep your anchor on the bow for ballast.  I sail
> single-handed most of the time, and always when I'm experimenting.
>
> Also, I sail the boat flat, as designed, and I read that sailing flat
> improves pointing.
>
> Of course, the centerboard must be down for pointing.
>
> There is no question that a J-24 will sail better than an R-22 into the
> wind under most conditions.  On the other hand, I was recently competing
> with a J-24 for bragging rights on getting back to our moorings and I
> won because the J-24 grounded itself, and I didn't.
>
> Congratulations on Cindy's book.  I'm ordering a copy from Amazon:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Bubble-Economy-Profit-When/dp/047175367X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222439170&sr=1-1
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
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>
> stan wrote:
>> dedicated to Dr. Krawitz (Paul to his fellow Rhodies) re pointing, to 
>> Rummy
>> for reminding me and Ed and Dan and others for responding to my "Test".
>>
>> I attempted this some time ago but it seems I had been excommunicated 
>> from
>> the List for ignoring the don't tell code on my take on religion.  MM now
>> has me back in temporary good standing but did not pass on the blocked
>> message,  I sent it off List to John to post but he may not have received
>> it.  I sent it off List to Rummy to post but it looks like he did not get 
>> it
>> either so, having passed the "test",  I will try again:
>>
>>
>> Lee, I need a curious Rhodie to give my guess a try.
>>
>> When Phil designed the boat he had no idea we would build it so good or
>>  that there would be a UPP on the transom or that owners would over stuff
>> the lazaret and
>>  themselves, so it sits too low at the stern.
>>
>> It is my guess that if the nose of the boat were lowered in the water:
>>     a)    The transom would come up leading to less turbulence (more 
>> speed)
>>     b)    The water line would increase leading to better wave formation
>> (more speed)
>>     c)    The fin's center of effort would move slightly more forward
>> leading to better helm (possibly more speed)
>>     d)    And pointing ability would improve.
>>
>> Lee, try putting 200 pounds or more temporary ballast way forward in the 
>> V
>> berth and then put your boat through all your double blind tests and call
>> Dr. Krawitz in the morning.
>>
>> One other TRICK, if you have the energy:
>>
>>     The large spreader width on the Rhodes was designed to make using the
>> shrouds as vertical life lines, when walking to the bow via the boat's 
>> cabin
>> side decks, comfortable.    Drastically cut back the length of the 
>> spreader
>> tubes.  This will allow better pointing using the full genoa, or any 
>> genoa
>> size larger than can be used when switching to the secondary genoa jib 
>> sheet
>> leads inside the upper shrouds.
>>
>> Allow we proud parents an aside:  Now that we are all socialists I want 
>> to
>> remind you that Cindy's book, "America's Bubble Economy" (Barnes and 
>> Noble)
>> was right on the money.  You do not want to hear what the economists 
>> behind
>> this book are predicting from here on ..............
>>
>> ss
>>
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