[Rhodes22-list] Sailing with waves--Now Heaving To

Thu Oct 9 08:43:23 EDT 2008

Mike,

Meaningful work?  I don't do that at the office much less on the boat.
I must admit I'm not overly productive when working from the boat, but I
can answer emails and voicemails on my smartphone and teleconference in
for meetings.  It's also a good time to read trade magazines and junk
snail mail.

If the wind and seas aren't too rough, I often don't need to heave to.
Just reef and balance your sails for a smooth ride and lock in the
hiking stick for hands-free sailing.

If I'm actively sailing, I don't get any work done.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Weisner [mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:57 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing with waves--Now Heaving To

Leland,

You telecommute while sailing?  Now that's a scary thought!

I would think that paying attention to sailing would leave little time
for 
doing much meaningful work, at least if you sail like I do.  I also have
a 
rule while on board; the PC stays below and out of the salt spray, both
to 
protect the laptop and prevent me from becoming too absorbed with what
is on 
the screen.

I'll bet that you text on your cell phone while driving, too!  ;~)

More power to you if you are able to safely multitask.  Just make sure
that 
you always have one hand for the boat.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Leland" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:40 PM
>
> Mary Lou,
>
> I don't feel too comfortable in giving you sailing advice, but since
you 
> and
> Fred haven't practiced "heaving to" much, maybe I can help.
>
> I telecommute from my boat and am constantly being rudely interrupted
by
> work.  If I need to chat with someone I typically heave to.  When I
first
> started I would just tack without reefing the Genoa.  The rudder is so

> huge
> that it would keep me heading somewhat into the wind, but with some
speed
> and heeling.  If you have the full main out, I've found that reefing
the
> Genoa down to at least 100% to 115%, with the sheet pulled tight,
seems to
> be about right.  The reef that you use for sailing in higher winds
also
> seems about right for heaving to in higher winds.
>
> I can't remember heaving to in winds lighter than 5 knots.  With the
big
> rudder, the Rhodes is good at lying ahull.
>
> http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaving_to
> http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaving_to
>
> If you're in light winds with no sails, you're probably drifting
slowly
> enough that lying ahull won't help much.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
>
> Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> What size jib when you heave to in those conditions. You have a 175 
>> right?
>>
>> We've never been successful getting the boat to heave to but we
>> haven't practised much and we may not have tried it in enough wind.
>> Do you find you can heave to in winds less than 10 knots?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mary Lou
>>
>> At 12:33 AM 10/8/2008, you wrote:
>>>Andrew,
>>>
>>>I've sailed in the same place under the same conditions.
>>>
>>>I find I can control the boat up into 20-25 mph wind conditions.
>>>
>>>I sail with far less than 50% of both sails, and can maintain
sustained
>>>over ground speeds between 7 and 11 kts--exceeding theoretical hull
>>>speed by planing on the waves.  I try not to heel at all, and roll up
my
>>>175 to storm sail size--tiny just for balance.
>>>
>>>The main drives the boat, and I set it at any size that will not
cause
>>>heeling.
>>>
>>>It is almost impossible to come about under these conditions
factoring
>>>in the waves.  I always jibe...carefully, with a very small main, and
>>>just a small "pop" when I change tacks.  I generally sail with the
boom
>>>up so I don't have to worry about getting killed by a small mistake.
My
>>>main is so small, the higher boom does not create heeling.
>>>
>>>Heaving to under these conditions is a kick, and definitely what I
would
>>>do if I found myself in a storm not on purpose. If you didn't try it
>>>when you were out there, you should next time.  You bob like a cork
in
>>>complete calm.  I had lunch, then released the jib in such a way that
I
>>>headed on the opposite tack and came home.
>>>
>>>Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Andrew Collins wrote:
>>> > Question for blue water and Great Lakes (maybe) sailors:
>>> >
>>> > The day before Hanna, the one before Ike, was due to roll in, I
took a
>>> sail
>>> > to try the boat out in unusual conditions. The wind was steady out
of
>>> the
>>> > east at about 15-20 mph with rolling 5-6' swells 20' apart once
>>> out of port.
>>> > On LI Sound waves are uncommon, as it is usually only choppy. So
going
>>> out
>>> > the tack was port on a reach and crossing the swells at less than
90
>>> deg.
>>> > This was sailing into, up and over the swells, which was
controllable,
>>> the
>>> > sails reefed to 50% area. Boom down, life jacket on, pulse up. The

>>> > boat
>>> > behaved well. Upon approaching Payee Reach which gets more air
>>> and having to
>>> > cross a more shallow area the swells got larger as the bottom
pushed
>>> them
>>> > up. So this got a little too exciting sooo, it was time to tack
and
>>> turn
>>> > back. The wind was too stiff and the the swells enough so she
wouldn't
>>> come
>>> > around, and I fell off to the former port tack.
>>> >
>>> > Keeping a weather eye on the swells a quick jibe got me on a
starboard
>>> tack
>>> > headed back towards port. So now we are sailing across and with
'down'
>>> the
>>> > swells, where before we were sailing 'up'. The boat is heeling to
port
>>> and
>>> > when sailing down, the heeling is being accentuated by going
downhill
>>> on an
>>> > angle across the swell, a new experience. This I did not like, so
>>> whenever
>>> > the boat started to head down a wave I fell off to brad reach and
>>> headed
>>> > straighter down the wave (closer to the fall line) and headed up 
>>> > again,
>>> > describing a zig-zag course. This I liked as there was a bit of 
>>> > surfing
>>> > involved. Having had my fun I headed home, where the first mate
>>> observed
>>> > that I looked a mite piqued.
>>> >
>>> > What have other R22 sailors done in these circumstances, besides
>>> avoiding
>>> > them? In how much wind are you able to tack? My boat will tack up
to
>>> about
>>> > 20 mph, depending on the seas.
>>> >
>>> > Andrew
>>> > s/v Carmen
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