[Rhodes22-list] Sailing with waves--Now Heaving To

Thu Oct 9 09:31:51 EDT 2008

Lee,  I do the same thing from my boat. I can keep an eye on things via
email and phone mail. If needed I know a couple of spots for unsecure wi-fi
along the river.

Wally

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Meaningful work?  I don't do that at the office much less on the boat.
> I must admit I'm not overly productive when working from the boat, but I
> can answer emails and voicemails on my smartphone and teleconference in
> for meetings.  It's also a good time to read trade magazines and junk
> snail mail.
>
> If the wind and seas aren't too rough, I often don't need to heave to.
> Just reef and balance your sails for a smooth ride and lock in the
> hiking stick for hands-free sailing.
>
> If I'm actively sailing, I don't get any work done.
>
> Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D. Weisner [mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:57 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing with waves--Now Heaving To
>
> Leland,
>
> You telecommute while sailing?  Now that's a scary thought!
>
> I would think that paying attention to sailing would leave little time
> for
> doing much meaningful work, at least if you sail like I do.  I also have
> a
> rule while on board; the PC stays below and out of the salt spray, both
> to
> protect the laptop and prevent me from becoming too absorbed with what
> is on
> the screen.
>
> I'll bet that you text on your cell phone while driving, too!  ;~)
>
> More power to you if you are able to safely multitask.  Just make sure
> that
> you always have one hand for the boat.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Leland" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:40 PM
> >
> > Mary Lou,
> >
> > I don't feel too comfortable in giving you sailing advice, but since
> you
> > and
> > Fred haven't practiced "heaving to" much, maybe I can help.
> >
> > I telecommute from my boat and am constantly being rudely interrupted
> by
> > work.  If I need to chat with someone I typically heave to.  When I
> first
> > started I would just tack without reefing the Genoa.  The rudder is so
>
> > huge
> > that it would keep me heading somewhat into the wind, but with some
> speed
> > and heeling.  If you have the full main out, I've found that reefing
> the
> > Genoa down to at least 100% to 115%, with the sheet pulled tight,
> seems to
> > be about right.  The reef that you use for sailing in higher winds
> also
> > seems about right for heaving to in higher winds.
> >
> > I can't remember heaving to in winds lighter than 5 knots.  With the
> big
> > rudder, the Rhodes is good at lying ahull.
> >
> > http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaving_to
> > http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaving_to
> >
> > If you're in light winds with no sails, you're probably drifting
> slowly
> > enough that lying ahull won't help much.
> >
> > Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill,
> >> What size jib when you heave to in those conditions. You have a 175
> >> right?
> >>
> >> We've never been successful getting the boat to heave to but we
> >> haven't practised much and we may not have tried it in enough wind.
> >> Do you find you can heave to in winds less than 10 knots?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mary Lou
> >>
> >> At 12:33 AM 10/8/2008, you wrote:
> >>>Andrew,
> >>>
> >>>I've sailed in the same place under the same conditions.
> >>>
> >>>I find I can control the boat up into 20-25 mph wind conditions.
> >>>
> >>>I sail with far less than 50% of both sails, and can maintain
> sustained
> >>>over ground speeds between 7 and 11 kts--exceeding theoretical hull
> >>>speed by planing on the waves.  I try not to heel at all, and roll up
> my
> >>>175 to storm sail size--tiny just for balance.
> >>>
> >>>The main drives the boat, and I set it at any size that will not
> cause
> >>>heeling.
> >>>
> >>>It is almost impossible to come about under these conditions
> factoring
> >>>in the waves.  I always jibe...carefully, with a very small main, and
> >>>just a small "pop" when I change tacks.  I generally sail with the
> boom
> >>>up so I don't have to worry about getting killed by a small mistake.
> My
> >>>main is so small, the higher boom does not create heeling.
> >>>
> >>>Heaving to under these conditions is a kick, and definitely what I
> would
> >>>do if I found myself in a storm not on purpose. If you didn't try it
> >>>when you were out there, you should next time.  You bob like a cork
> in
> >>>complete calm.  I had lunch, then released the jib in such a way that
> I
> >>>headed on the opposite tack and came home.
> >>>
> >>>Bill Effros
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Andrew Collins wrote:
> >>> > Question for blue water and Great Lakes (maybe) sailors:
> >>> >
> >>> > The day before Hanna, the one before Ike, was due to roll in, I
> took a
> >>> sail
> >>> > to try the boat out in unusual conditions. The wind was steady out
> of
> >>> the
> >>> > east at about 15-20 mph with rolling 5-6' swells 20' apart once
> >>> out of port.
> >>> > On LI Sound waves are uncommon, as it is usually only choppy. So
> going
> >>> out
> >>> > the tack was port on a reach and crossing the swells at less than
> 90
> >>> deg.
> >>> > This was sailing into, up and over the swells, which was
> controllable,
> >>> the
> >>> > sails reefed to 50% area. Boom down, life jacket on, pulse up. The
>
> >>> > boat
> >>> > behaved well. Upon approaching Payee Reach which gets more air
> >>> and having to
> >>> > cross a more shallow area the swells got larger as the bottom
> pushed
> >>> them
> >>> > up. So this got a little too exciting sooo, it was time to tack
> and
> >>> turn
> >>> > back. The wind was too stiff and the the swells enough so she
> wouldn't
> >>> come
> >>> > around, and I fell off to the former port tack.
> >>> >
> >>> > Keeping a weather eye on the swells a quick jibe got me on a
> starboard
> >>> tack
> >>> > headed back towards port. So now we are sailing across and with
> 'down'
> >>> the
> >>> > swells, where before we were sailing 'up'. The boat is heeling to
> port
> >>> and
> >>> > when sailing down, the heeling is being accentuated by going
> downhill
> >>> on an
> >>> > angle across the swell, a new experience. This I did not like, so
> >>> whenever
> >>> > the boat started to head down a wave I fell off to brad reach and
> >>> headed
> >>> > straighter down the wave (closer to the fall line) and headed up
> >>> > again,
> >>> > describing a zig-zag course. This I liked as there was a bit of
> >>> > surfing
> >>> > involved. Having had my fun I headed home, where the first mate
> >>> observed
> >>> > that I looked a mite piqued.
> >>> >
> >>> > What have other R22 sailors done in these circumstances, besides
> >>> avoiding
> >>> > them? In how much wind are you able to tack? My boat will tack up
> to
> >>> about
> >>> > 20 mph, depending on the seas.
> >>> >
> >>> > Andrew
> >>> > s/v Carmen
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