[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Thu Oct 9 22:25:14 EDT 2008
I have only vague memories of it, and keep in mind, I'm no McCain fan.
So, I'll ask again, what was his involvement?
JbTek wrote:
> Herb,
> I remember that scandle well. McCain was involved up to his neck.
> I remember shaking my head in disgust when he was re-elected again.
> McCain is no better than Keating....he should have gone to jail also.
> He just got away with it......again, our legal system at work.
> Jb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>
>
>
>> Pete
>>
>> Is it your assertion that because Ayers wasn't convicted, that he wasn't
>> involved?
>>
>> And yes, Keating was convicted. What exactly did McCain have to do with
>> what Keating did?
>>
>>
>> petelargo wrote:
>>
>>> more time has been spent looking into this than anything else because it
>>> would be a game changer. but they just can't find anything, so the
>>>
> tactic is
>
>>> to only conjecture about it and question obamas 'character' as
>>>
> un-american,
>
>>> rather than dealing with the very real crisis issues that we are facing.
>>> ayers was not convicted of anything. keating sure as hell was. mccain
>>>
> helped
>
>>> destroy thousands of peoples finances during the S&L crisis and we paid.
>>>
> PS.
>
>>> I am very very sorry for your terrible family tragedy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just bent wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> So why isn't he on Fox telling his story? I'm sure very few people know
>>>> these kind of details. I think it would have a big impact.
>>>> I know it would with anyone who has been a victim of violent crime.
>>>> Jb
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jb,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a would be victim in his own words.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html
>>>>>
>>>>> You can draw your own conclusions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM, JbTek <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
>>>>>>
> bad
>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> more
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>> My brother was robbed, then shot in the back & left to die 3 days
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> before
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christmas. He was 37 years old with 2 kids. His youngest son shot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> himself in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> the chest last Christmas & died.
>>>>>> Are you telling me that this unrepentent terrorist, who killed no
>>>>>>
> one,
>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> more evil than the person that devistated our family?
>>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>>> Jb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter and Robert:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ayers comments published on September 11, 2001, Ayers had this to
>>>>>>>
> say
>
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> his bombing past, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do
>>>>>>> enough."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama keeps saying what Ayers did 40 years ago or 20 years ago is
>>>>>>>
> not
>
>>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would have fewer problems with Obama's association if in fact
>>>>>>>
> Ayers
>
>>>> was
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> repentant and repudiated his actions when he was in his 20's. Some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> people
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> do make mistakes and grow up. However, Obama associates with an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> unrepentant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> terrorist, Bill Ayers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The above were reported public comments made just seven years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Just
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> after a terrorist attack on USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama said he would sit down with foreign terrorist groups to
>>>>>>>
> resolve
>
>>>>>>> grievances. He would sit down with Akmenijad. Obviously he would
>>>>>>>
> sit
>
>>>>>> down
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with them because he still sits down with an American Terrorist, his
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> fellow
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> board member, Bill Ayers. He does not see any problem with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> terrorists.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue here is Ayers is an unrepentant and unchanged American
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> terrorist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can you justify supporting evil?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not defined by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> individual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> choice. Moral clarity is not necessarily a religious issue. "A
>>>>>>>
> lack
>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> moral clarity is why people living in free societies can come to see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> their
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> fellow citizens as their enemies and foreign dictators as their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> friends."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Natan Sharansky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not necessarily a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> religious
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> topic. Different societies have by various paths come to similar
>>>>>>> definitions of good and evil. By acceptable definitions,
>>>>>>>
> unrepentant
>
>>>> evil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> is bad. Freely associating with a person who by most standards is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> evil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> wrong. Supporting an evil person, for whatever reasons, is
>>>>>>>
> assisting
>
>>>> in a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> conspiracy of evil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> bad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>> [no addendum for Andrew]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>
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>>>>>>>
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