[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-NYTimes: Major GOP & McCain Fund Raiser tied to Corruption

[Herb Parsons]

Uhuh Ben, they're not the same thing.

All Obama had to do was note the man's name. And he didn't just serve on 
boards (yes, multiple boards) with him, he launched his campaign from 
the guy's house. Ayers made no secret about his past.

You're trying to paint McCain with the same brush, and it's not. Obama 
worked with a KNOWN terrorist, who was proud of his past. If the 
allegations you're talking about are true, that means McCain worked with 
a guy that was a swindler and may, or may not, have known about it.

Your comparison would have been much more appropriate had it been to 
Obma's relationship with Rezko, though the ties between him and Obama 
are much tighter.

Ben Cittadino wrote:
> Herb;
>
> You make my point for me.
>
> Politicians draw support from lots and lots of people.  At the time Obama
> served on the Annenberg Challenge Board with Ayres maybe Obama Should have
> known about Ayres' past, maybe not.  I don't know.
> Maybe McCain should have known more about this fund raiser, maybe not. I
> don't know.  My point, although made tongue in cheek at first, was that
> political campaigns draw all kinds of people and none of those campaigns
> should be held to account for every past act of every supporter, unless the
> campaign manifests some approval of or adoption of the bad acts.  
>
> Obama has led a good and decent life.  Disagree with him about health care
> reform, abortion policy, war, peace, strategy, tactics, taxes, or whatever. 
> But the attempts to smear him as some kind of communist or terrorist or
> secret agent for the muslim world have not only backfired, they have sullied
> the heretofor heroic and honorable reputation of Sen McCain. 
>
> I just think it's a shame.
>
> Ben C.
>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>   
>> I didn't see in there where the guy made known to anyone that those were 
>> his actions. So, is it your assertion that McCain should have known the 
>> guy's secrets? Or are you comparing this to Ayers, who made no secret, 
>> and actually bragged, of his past.
>>
>>
>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>     
>>> http:// http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/world/middleeast/17fuel.html?hp 
>>>
>>> Colleagues;
>>>
>>> Apparently these acts are not alleged to have occured when Sen McCain was
>>> 8
>>> years old. No, this friend of the senator's is said to have overcharged,
>>> and
>>> thus damaged, our war effort during a current conflict. Sure hope the
>>> allegations are not true.  Because if they turn out to be true what would
>>> that say about Sen McCain's choices of people to "pal around with"?
>>>
>>> Best, Ben C.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
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