[Rhodes22-list] Wally said, "... [Political][More Political stuff]

Mon Oct 20 10:23:42 EDT 2008

Wally,

I'm pretty pissed about the last 8 years as well.  W said all the
right things to woo the conservatives in the Republican party and once
again we were duped.  The man spent money like a drunken sailor.
Someone please explain to me how we're going to correct that by
spending more money we don't have faster?  When Jeffords (SP?) left
the Republican party and tipped the Senate to the Dems I was happy
because it knocked McCain off as Chairman of the Aviation
subcommittee.  I've disliked  McCain for years. I still dislike him.
He's not a conservative, never has been.

But on the other hand, we the have mystery man, someone with no
significant legislative accomplishments to his name. He openly lies
about the only executive experience he has because he doesn't want the
public to know how he spent the millions or who he spent it with.  He
gets a pass for hanging with a radical, openly racist church, because
he's black?  I don't think his or anyone else's religion matters.  It
doesn't matter to me if you're Muslim, Buddhist, or Hindu, but if they
routinely say at your mosque or temple, "God Damn America",  "white
man's greed starves a world in need", "the US government invented
AIDS", "United States of KKK", I'm not voting for you.  Just sitting
through 20 years of that crap is enough, but then to say with a
straight face, "I never heard those things"?  Are people really that
gullible or does that not matter?

What strange times we're living in!

Brad

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:46 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly who is this man that tingles so many legs?
>
> Brad, You know some people are pretty pissed about the last 8 years. They
> recognize who had control for 6 of those years. They see that McCain has
> been part of the problem for over 20 years. They see the deck was stacked
> for right success and they delivered failure. I think it is that simple. I
> am not saying this is right, wrong or indifferent,,,,, it is just the way it
> is. W
>
> I will (most likely) vote for Barr out of disgust knowing my vote doesn't
> matter. McCain doesn't need my vote in TN and it will not help Obama win. If
> your state isn't close the Electoral system can make one feel somewhat
> disenfranchised. I was leaning towards mcCain but I must admit his choice of
> Palin bothered me. Yeah I know folks are crazy abour her. I wonder what they
> would think if she was ugly?
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> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wally,
>>
>> I'm not suggesting it isn't a significant endorsement, it is, but it
>> was not unexpected.  Powell has always been a moderate if not a
>> liberal (he holds his political cards pretty close to his chest,
>> always a good move for a General). He's been saying for months how
>> much he admires Obama and how exciting it will be to have the first
>> black President.  When JC Watts says he has mixed emotions you know
>> race is a huge emotional factor.  Oh, but I forget, we're in the
>> post-racial era.
>>
>> Getting back to the basics that should disturb everyone, we have
>> massive voter fraud taking place nationwide by Acorn, an organization
>> that Obama has very close ties to.  We have massive amounts of money
>> being raised that conveniently are below the $200 threshold for
>> reporting and yet we already know that much of these funds are from
>> foreign sources.  We have a candidate with known ties to Marxists and
>> unrepentant terrorists (the evidence is overwhelming) and few are
>> curious. We have a candidate with gaping holes in his resume that no
>> one seems interested in exploring.
>>
>> Exactly who is this man that tingles so many legs?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:49 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Brad,  I disagree. This is not your average meaningless "Joe Hollywood"
>> > endorsement. I admire Powell and respect his opinion and judgement. I
>> think
>> > many others do as well. Unlike a Ted Kennedy endorsement (or Clinton)
>> this
>> > speaks to those outside the left base. I am not saying I am voting for
>> Obama
>> > but I recognize the significance of this endorsement.
>> >
>> > Fair Winds,
>> >
>> > Wally
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wally,
>> >>
>> >> Powell endorsing Obama is a "dog bites man" story.  He's been hinting
>> >> for months that this was coming, and surprise, surprise, Obama has
>> >> said Powell will have a position in an Obama administration.
>> >>
>> >> What I did find interesting was Powell's pooh-poohing the Bill Ayer's
>> >> connection.  He obviously gets his news from the MSM as well, although
>> >> late in the game, even the MSM is having second thoughts.
>> >>
>> >> Here's some more news that's being ignored.  Obama and Ayers had
>> >> offices in the same building at 115 South Sangamon St. in Chicago.
>> >> "Just a guy in my neighborhood"?
>> >>
>> >> And now for a short film clip (10 min)-
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7kT4xwddg
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:12 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Pete,  Neither party speaks to me so I tend to doubt everything from
>> both
>> >> > sides.  That includes posts from list members. Brad and Ed made a
>> claim
>> >> that
>> >> > the media buried the story...I took the time to check and could find
>> >> nothing
>> >> > to support their viewpoint. Just because your read something in your
>> >> > "in-box' doesn't make it true! It is amazing how many folks believe
>> >> > something off a blog/news without taking the time to check facts.
>> >> >
>> >> > Both sides claim media bias and they are right. The truth is out
>> >> > there.....you just need to look.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hey how about C. Powell endorsing Obama! I didn't know he was a
>> >> > Marxist/socialist freedom hater!! ::-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Fair winds,
>> >> >
>> >> > Wally
>> >> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, petelargo <
>> petelauritzen at earthlink.net
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hey Wally, forget stuff like Factcheck. Brad has secret sources. He
>> >> knows
>> >> >> someone who knows someone who is a second cousin of Ed's who knows
>> >> someone
>> >> >> that has tons of irrefutable evidence so incendiary that even newsmax
>> >> and
>> >> >> foxnews won't touch it . That's how he knew Biden would be replaced
>> by
>> >> >> Hillary in one of his most recent 'I know best' political
>> revelations.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TN Rhodey-2 wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tootle/Brad,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There may be a reason this story was "buried".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_it_recently_revealed_that_the_us.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I know you guys like to send each other hundreds of emails knocking
>> >> the
>> >> >> > other side but you really need to check your facts. Brad must be
>> >> relying
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the same source that told him the economy was strong!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You guys are too funny.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Wally
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Ed,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The MSM buried the story.  Attached is one archive. Most
>> newspapers
>> >> >> >> posted it deep in their papers and hardly any broadcast news
>> outlets
>> >> >> >> touched the story. The US Armed Forces kept it quiet because it
>> >> stayed
>> >> >> >> under heavy guard for years and they didn't want to draw attention
>> to
>> >> >> >> it until it was safely in Canada for processing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Brad
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ---------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Posted on Sun, Jul. 6, 2008
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Iraq's nuclear 'yellowcake' moved to Canada
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> By Brian Murphy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Associated Press
>> >> >> >> The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a
>> huge
>> >> >> >> stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian
>> port
>> >> >> >> yesterday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a
>> >> two-week
>> >> >> >> airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed
>> material
>> >> for
>> >> >> >> higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward
>> >> closing
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> books on Hussein's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S.
>> and
>> >> >> >> Iraqi
>> >> >> >> authorities who had worried that the cache would reach insurgents
>> or
>> >> >> >> smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > What's now left is the final and complicated push to clean up
>> the
>> >> >> >> remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear
>> complex
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> 12
>> >> >> >> miles south of Baghdad - using teams that include Iraqi experts
>> >> recently
>> >> >> >> trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a
>> >> >> senior
>> >> >> >> U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to the
>> >> >> >> Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity
>> >> because
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> the sensitivity of the subject.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a
>> >> so-called
>> >> >> >> "dirty bomb" - a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive
>> >> >> >> material
>> >> >> >> - it could stir widespread panic if incorporated into a blast.
>> >> >> Yellowcake
>> >> >> >> also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels,
>> >> nuclear
>> >> >> >> weapons using sophisticated equipment.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium
>> >> >> >> producer,
>> >> >> >> Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth
>> "tens
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to
>> >> >> discuss
>> >> >> >> the price, but said the yellowcake would be processed at
>> facilities
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "We are pleased . . . that we have taken [the yellowcake] from a
>> >> >> >> volatile
>> >> >> >> region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and
>> >> >> military
>> >> >> >> initiatives - kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the
>> >> >> convoys
>> >> >> >> were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad,
>> then
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> 37
>> >> >> >> military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia, and
>> >> finally
>> >> >> >> aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for an 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts
>> to
>> >> >> >> stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about
>> Hussein's
>> >> >> >> weapons
>> >> >> >> capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Accusations that Hussein had tried to purchase more yellowcake
>> from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> African nation of Niger - and an article by a former U.S.
>> ambassador
>> >> >> >> refuting the claims - led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington
>> >> leaks
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> reached high into the Bush administration.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well-known for
>> >> decades
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> the centerpiece of Hussein's nuclear efforts.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981.
>> >> Later,
>> >> >> >> U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which
>> had
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> >> stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf
>> War.
>> >> >> >> There
>> >> >> >> was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the
>> >> official
>> >> >> >> said.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Find this article at:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20080706_Iraq_s_nuclear__yellowcake__moved_to_Canada.html?adString=inq.news/world_us;!category=world_us;&randomOrd=101508072055
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Wally,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I could not find a reference for the yellow cake that came thru
>> >> >> >> Charleston,
>> >> >> >> > SC.  It was a discreet comment on local South Carolina radio.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > However, that ship apparently was not all.  See:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=50430
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Just maybe the MSM (Main Stream Media) does not tell all?
>> >>  Especially
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> > which it does not want.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And just maybe the current political news is just as biased?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Ed K
>> >> >> >> > Greenville, SC, USA
>> >> >> >> > attachment:
>> >> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994370/statement.gifstatement.gif
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tootle wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Wally said, "I have seen many on this list proven wrong about
>> >> WMD".
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> While many argue that many things were included in Weapons of
>> Mass
>> >> >> >> >> Destruction, some want the term limited to whether Iraq had a
>> >> nuclear
>> >> >> >> >> program.  So limit the term to Iraq's nuclear programs under
>> >> Saddam.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Discreetly, over 200 metric tons of yellow cake were removed
>> from
>> >> >> Iraq
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> brought to US thru port of Charleston and shipped to unstated
>> >> >> American
>> >> >> >> >> plant for processing.  And was that same stuff that Clark said
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> Iraq
>> >> >> >> >> was not interested in?  How did Iraq acquire 200 metric tons of
>> >> semi
>> >> >> >> >> processed Uranium ore?  Which asks the question what was it
>> going
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> used for?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Ed K
>> >> >> >> >> Greenville, SC, USA
>> >> >> >> >> Attachment:
>> >> >> >> >>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994121/Attention.jpgAttention.jpg
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994370/statement.gifstatement.gif
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