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[brad haslett]

Robert,

First, some housekeeping details.  For some reason I'm missing some e-mails on my Gmail account so I'm answering you on my Yahoo account.

We spent last weekend with two of the few survivors of this nations "Greatest Generation" and I'm happy to report that they are in good health, providing you give forgiveness for Mom telling the same story over, and over, again and again.

On the way out of town, we dropped a check off in the night deposit box of the local bank - no note, no explanation, no direction of what to do. The bank President is a member of my parents church, the money will hit their account without worries.

My hometown was always a pretty hardscrabble place.  It has gotten worse.  Welfare is the problem.  

I'd give you more detail but that would require dinner and wine.  

Brad


--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Robert Skinner <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Skinner <Robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Labels
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 8:40 PM
> A slight change in viewpoint might get us closer to
> a more comprehensive truth.
> 
> Economics
> 
> If you look at conservatives as have experienced a
> schism somewhere around the Eisenhower administration.
> One subset could be considered "old"
> conservatives -
> conservative in fiscal, natural, and social areas.
> 
> The other (granted that there are degrees of
> difference, but follow this admitted
> oversimplification) branch could be called "new"
> conservatives, following a progression that has
> resulted in the "neocons" of today.
> 
> The neocon fiscal policies culminated in
> "trickle-down".  As seen by liberals, it is
> regarded
> as providing benefits to those who don't need them
> on the premise that the excess will eventually get
> to those who do have real need.  This is not popular
> among the poor.  The neocon sees it as a means of
> consolidating wealth so that corporations and other
> putatively productive segments of the economy can
> get about the business of the nation, creating
> wealth that will lift the whole country.  The
> history of this theory has been checkered.
> 
> Somewhere along the line, one has to ask where the
> cost of any economic policy will fall.  Pushing it
> off into the future hardly seems responsible, but
> it seems to be the general approach of the neocons,
> quite the opposite of the way that the "old"
> conservatives would behave.  Roosevelt has been
> pilloried by old Republicans for creating national
> debt, but more has been created in the last 8 years
> than in all before.
> 
> Etc.
> 
> A discussion of social issues, etc. would reveal
> greater diversity in viewpoints in these areas - at
> least fragmentation, if not one or more continua -
> certainly not the simple binary division that is
> being offered as the framework for discussion in
> the current election.
> 
> Some say that the GOP is now the party of hate and
> fear.  While it is true that it seems more hawkish
> than the Democratic approach, that characterization
> is no more valid than regarding the Democrats as
> misguided economic leaches and treacherous perverts.
> 
> Perhaps we are more confined my our two party
> system than we think.  There is little place for
> the multi-dimensional thinker.
> 
> Time for a bit of rational thought, doncha think?
> 
> /Robert
> ---------------------------------------------
> pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net wrote:
> > I once read something that stated that most
> conservatives think liberals
> > are just plain stupid and that most liberals think
> conservatives are just
> > plain evil.  I thought it was funny and maybe just a
> little bit accurate. 
> > Not that liberals are stupid or conservatives are
> evil, but that each
> > thinks a little that way about the other.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
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