[Rhodes22-list] Another of Gov. Palin's "Real Americans"

Fri Oct 24 00:08:33 EDT 2008

Herb;

What the hell are you talking about?  Who said anything about her accent?
Bill Clinton has a southern drawal and he's a freaking genius. I don't know
why I respond to you sometimes. Go to bed. Good night for heaven's sake.

Her speech patterns are those of a shallow thinker, a rehersed automaton, a
panderer to the lowest common denominator.  She's a demigoger. Get it?

We disgree. Live with it.

Ben C. 

hparsons wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> 
> You make the standard mistake of the northern elite, that speech 
> patterns have something to do with being a "moron".
> 
> You speak for me too much. I never said anything about her interview 
> answers with Couric. I don't watch Couric.
> 
> However, if you want to see some moronic answers in an unscripted talk, 
> I've got some Obama doozies to show you.
> 
> I'm consistent in my viewpoints, are you?
> 
> I don't think so.
> 
> But, at least you finally answered the question.
> 
> However, you really DID sidestep the question I asked THIS time.
> 
> What would have been the of Bill asking the question? Another 
> opportunity to state the same nonsense again?
> 
> I'm curious, have you ever been to Alaska?
> 
> I have. Palin's speech patterns are shared by many there, it's a 
> cultural thing. Sort of like the southern draw that some northern idiots 
> think are a sign of a "moron".
> 
> Every time I get in a frustrated mean mode with foreign support, I have 
> to remind myself that an accent is a sign of stupidity.
> 
> But then, I'm a "just believer", gotta learn to adopt some of those 
> preconceived notions from you thinkers and debaters.
> 
> Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
>> Herb;
>>
>> I didn't get into it with you because my opinion is based upon everything
>> you already know. You and I disagree.  I see her speech patterns as
>> stilted,
>> scripted, and unsophisticated. You see a smart, plain spoken, leader.  I
>> saw
>> her interview answers ( with Couric and others) and debate performance as
>> poor.  You saw it differently.  I saw a duck that walked talked and
>> quacked
>> so I called it a duck. You saw a swan gliding smoothly to a change in
>> Washington.  You are clearly not willing or able to see it my way; I am
>> clearly not able or willing to see it your way. What's to discuss? For
>> once
>> I thought I would take Mike's advice and avoid going around and around
>> with
>> you about it. OK?
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>> hparsons wrote:
>>   
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> What good would it have done to ask you at the time? I tried that, you 
>>> refused to answer.
>>>
>>> What, you wanted another opportunity to refuse?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Bill;
>>>>
>>>> With all of the perjoratives that have been slung at the candidates
>>>> (and
>>>> forum members) in this forum over the past weeks, you pick NOW to chime
>>>> in
>>>> over my use of moron to refer to Sarah Palin? 
>>>>
>>>> And you do it in a thread referring to the resignation of a woman who
>>>> herself acknowledged her error in publishing a racist handout? You
>>>> brush
>>>> it
>>>> off as a political cartoon? 
>>>>
>>>> And how do you know Scott McClellan doesn't have some afflicted
>>>> individual
>>>> in his family when you refer to him as a moron.
>>>>
>>>> Tell you what, I'll give you Scott as a moron if you give me Sarah as a
>>>> moron. OK?
>>>>
>>>> Ben C.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>
>>>>> This was essentially a political cartoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to me you called the mother of a Down Syndrome child a "moron" 
>>>>> recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very offensive to the intellectually challenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is great danger when the defenders of the first amendment scream 
>>>>> "RACIST!" at anyone who disagrees with them on any topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Nast would be saddened.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> The following came over the AP Wire today.  I think the Dowd column
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Gen.
>>>>>> Powell were thinking of people like this when they criticized the
>>>>>> tactics
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the GOP this time around. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - The president of a San Bernardino County
>>>>>> Republican club resigned after apologizing for distributing a
>>>>>> newsletter
>>>>>> with a caricature of Barack Obama on a fake food stamp surrounded by
>>>>>> ribs,
>>>>>> watermelon and fried chicken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a letter sent Wednesday to members of the Chaffey Community
>>>>>> Republican
>>>>>> Women, Federated, Diane Fedele said she was sorry for showing "poor
>>>>>> judgment
>>>>>> and lack of insight and sensitivity."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Officials with the state Republican Party have said the GOP club is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> directly responsible to the state party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the October newsletter sent to about 200 members and associates,
>>>>>> Fedele
>>>>>> included an image she pulled from an e-mail making the rounds of the
>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The illustration showed a $10 "Obama Bucks" food stamp with the
>>>>>> Democratic
>>>>>> presidential candidate's head on a donkey, surrounded by the foods
>>>>>> linked
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> negative stereotypes of blacks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Black members of the club as well as GOP lawmakers and state and
>>>>>> national
>>>>>> party leaders condemned the newsletter as offensive and racist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fedele denied racist intent but in her letter defended the message:
>>>>>> "The
>>>>>> point, that has been lost in the subsequent discussion over images,
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Obama will 'take from the rich and give to the poor' and that we ALL
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be buying food with his 'Obama Welfare Dollars.' An ideological
>>>>>> statement,
>>>>>> not a racial one."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Riverside Press-Enterprise said the cartoon was created by Tim
>>>>>> Kastelein, a 31-year-old Minnesota Democrat who said he made it in a
>>>>>> satirical attempt to make fun of right-wing pundits afraid of a
>>>>>> Democratic
>>>>>> presidential candidate."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
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