[Rhodes22-list] Another of Gov. Palin's "Real Americans"
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Fri Oct 24 00:31:37 EDT 2008
Ben,
Come off your lofty view of yourself. Are you saying I'm somehow wrong
for NOT interpreting "speech patterns" as "rehearsed automaton, a
panderer to the lowest commone denominator" instead of accent?
You're acting boorish. My interpretation of your vague "speech patterns"
is valid. Sorry you didn't mean it that way, but you didn't specify.
Maybe ah's just not as so fis ti cated as you boss.
Get real.
I find your attitude to be stilted as well, is it OK to refer to YOU as
a "moron",or is that simply reserved for those you don't like.
Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
> Herb;
>
> What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about her accent?
> Bill Clinton has a southern drawal and he's a freaking genius. I don't know
> why I respond to you sometimes. Go to bed. Good night for heaven's sake.
>
> Her speech patterns are those of a shallow thinker, a rehersed automaton, a
> panderer to the lowest common denominator. She's a demigoger. Get it?
>
> We disgree. Live with it.
>
>
> Ben C.
>
> hparsons wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> You make the standard mistake of the northern elite, that speech
>> patterns have something to do with being a "moron".
>>
>> You speak for me too much. I never said anything about her interview
>> answers with Couric. I don't watch Couric.
>>
>> However, if you want to see some moronic answers in an unscripted talk,
>> I've got some Obama doozies to show you.
>>
>> I'm consistent in my viewpoints, are you?
>>
>> I don't think so.
>>
>> But, at least you finally answered the question.
>>
>> However, you really DID sidestep the question I asked THIS time.
>>
>> What would have been the of Bill asking the question? Another
>> opportunity to state the same nonsense again?
>>
>> I'm curious, have you ever been to Alaska?
>>
>> I have. Palin's speech patterns are shared by many there, it's a
>> cultural thing. Sort of like the southern draw that some northern idiots
>> think are a sign of a "moron".
>>
>> Every time I get in a frustrated mean mode with foreign support, I have
>> to remind myself that an accent is a sign of stupidity.
>>
>> But then, I'm a "just believer", gotta learn to adopt some of those
>> preconceived notions from you thinkers and debaters.
>>
>> Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
>>
>>> Herb;
>>>
>>> I didn't get into it with you because my opinion is based upon everything
>>> you already know. You and I disagree. I see her speech patterns as
>>> stilted,
>>> scripted, and unsophisticated. You see a smart, plain spoken, leader. I
>>> saw
>>> her interview answers ( with Couric and others) and debate performance as
>>> poor. You saw it differently. I saw a duck that walked talked and
>>> quacked
>>> so I called it a duck. You saw a swan gliding smoothly to a change in
>>> Washington. You are clearly not willing or able to see it my way; I am
>>> clearly not able or willing to see it your way. What's to discuss? For
>>> once
>>> I thought I would take Mike's advice and avoid going around and around
>>> with
>>> you about it. OK?
>>>
>>> Ben C.
>>>
>>> hparsons wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> What good would it have done to ask you at the time? I tried that, you
>>>> refused to answer.
>>>>
>>>> What, you wanted another opportunity to refuse?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bill;
>>>>>
>>>>> With all of the perjoratives that have been slung at the candidates
>>>>> (and
>>>>> forum members) in this forum over the past weeks, you pick NOW to chime
>>>>> in
>>>>> over my use of moron to refer to Sarah Palin?
>>>>>
>>>>> And you do it in a thread referring to the resignation of a woman who
>>>>> herself acknowledged her error in publishing a racist handout? You
>>>>> brush
>>>>> it
>>>>> off as a political cartoon?
>>>>>
>>>>> And how do you know Scott McClellan doesn't have some afflicted
>>>>> individual
>>>>> in his family when you refer to him as a moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell you what, I'll give you Scott as a moron if you give me Sarah as a
>>>>> moron. OK?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was essentially a political cartoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to me you called the mother of a Down Syndrome child a "moron"
>>>>>> recently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very offensive to the intellectually challenged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is great danger when the defenders of the first amendment scream
>>>>>> "RACIST!" at anyone who disagrees with them on any topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Nast would be saddened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following came over the AP Wire today. I think the Dowd column
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Gen.
>>>>>>> Powell were thinking of people like this when they criticized the
>>>>>>> tactics
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the GOP this time around. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - The president of a San Bernardino County
>>>>>>> Republican club resigned after apologizing for distributing a
>>>>>>> newsletter
>>>>>>> with a caricature of Barack Obama on a fake food stamp surrounded by
>>>>>>> ribs,
>>>>>>> watermelon and fried chicken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a letter sent Wednesday to members of the Chaffey Community
>>>>>>> Republican
>>>>>>> Women, Federated, Diane Fedele said she was sorry for showing "poor
>>>>>>> judgment
>>>>>>> and lack of insight and sensitivity."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Officials with the state Republican Party have said the GOP club is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> directly responsible to the state party.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the October newsletter sent to about 200 members and associates,
>>>>>>> Fedele
>>>>>>> included an image she pulled from an e-mail making the rounds of the
>>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The illustration showed a $10 "Obama Bucks" food stamp with the
>>>>>>> Democratic
>>>>>>> presidential candidate's head on a donkey, surrounded by the foods
>>>>>>> linked
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> negative stereotypes of blacks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Black members of the club as well as GOP lawmakers and state and
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> party leaders condemned the newsletter as offensive and racist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fedele denied racist intent but in her letter defended the message:
>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>> point, that has been lost in the subsequent discussion over images,
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> Obama will 'take from the rich and give to the poor' and that we ALL
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be buying food with his 'Obama Welfare Dollars.' An ideological
>>>>>>> statement,
>>>>>>> not a racial one."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Riverside Press-Enterprise said the cartoon was created by Tim
>>>>>>> Kastelein, a 31-year-old Minnesota Democrat who said he made it in a
>>>>>>> satirical attempt to make fun of right-wing pundits afraid of a
>>>>>>> Democratic
>>>>>>> presidential candidate."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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