[Rhodes22-list] How Much for the White House?

Fri Oct 24 14:16:51 EDT 2008

Paul,

Every election has some voter fraud, some bogus donations, and every
candidate has a questionable person or two in his or her background.
Never in our nation's history have we seen anything quite like what
has transpired this cycle.  Just as FEMA couldn't keep-up with the
fraud after Katrina, the FEC can't keep-up with the Obama campaign.
Pam Geller and her volunteers at the Atlas Shrugs blogsite was the one
who broke the story last summer on mysterious donations flowing in
from GA, which one would naturally assume to be Georgia.  Turns out,
it was the Gaza Strip.  The Obama campaign said they returned the
money after Pam and her crew busted them.  Next came the "gibberish"
donations from names like yyyxxx and znznzn, etc.  Once again, after
Geller busted the Obama campaign, they say they've returned the money.
 To whom?  Who is yyyxxx?  Where is all this money coming from? Try
donating money to the RNC and see how it works.  They match your name
with the name on the card, they match your address, they ask for the
three digit security code.  This is how it is supposed to work.  The
Obama switched all the safeguards off.

Never in our history have we seen a candidate so openly mock the rules
and regulations of campaign financing, starting with the broken pledge
to opt out of public financing.

Hillary Clinton should be the nominee of the Democratic Party.  Go to
this site and watch the videos linked on the right hand side-

http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

Obama gamed the caucus states.  For anyone who follows Chicago
politics and especially Obama's two previous successful campaigns,
this is hardly shocking stuff - it's the "Chicago Way".

The MSM love affair with this man will wear off soon enough but by
then it may be too late for them to do their job.  Remember the Nixon
and Clinton impeachments and how that threw our nation into a
prolonged period of uncertainty?

I wish I could say I'm just a partisan hack pulling for "my guy" but
John McCain was never "my guy" and still isn't.  But, he's not a
crook.  I feel so sorry for this great country that it's laws are
being flaunted and ideals are being mocked.  Sad.

Brad

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM,  <pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> I've intentionally waited awhile before posting on this subject.  I wanted
> to hear specifically what the Obama supporters had to say on the subject.
> Is it just me or have they been strangely silent about this?  I think this
> is a major issue because it speaks of the character of the man and his
> campaign (along with other issues he prefers to skirt or not respond to).
> Why is no one on this list from the left leaning persuasion addressing or
> speaking up about this?  Is it a non-issue for them?
>
> Ben C., you're a thoughtful voice for that side.  If I've missed one of
> your or other's posts on this subject, please forgive me.  If you would,
> please re-send it.  If not, please let me hear your opinion on this.
> Specifically, how can this not matter to you?
>
> Even though I won't vote for him, I honestly and respectfully want to
> believe in him because he may be my next President.  So far, I'm having a
> hard time believing he is anything but a dirty, sleazy, smooth-talking,
> corupt politician.  I think Brad's right.  He's got a lot of people in
> this country fooled.
>
> Paul
>
>> The 2008 Presidential campaign will go down in history as the most
>> corrupt in our nation, ever. What we're witnessing here is something
>> you'd expect in some third-world banana republic. Remember the pledge
>> to take public campaign funds?  Vanished down the memory hole like so
>> many incriminating characters from the past.  Here's the latest
>> example-
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> October 23, 2008  Posted by Scott at 6:52 AM
>>
>> We've previously noted the gusher of illegal campaign contributions
>> flowing into the Obama campaign from contributors such as "Doodad Pro"
>> and "Good Will." More recently, incidents have been reported in which
>> people have seen credit card charges surface suggesting they donated
>> to Barack Obama when they did not. Matthew Mosk and Sarah Cohen noted
>> one such incident earlier this week:
>>
>>     Now comes the story of Mary T. Biskup, of Manchester, Missouri.
>> Biskup got a call recently from the Obama campaign, which was trying
>> to figure out why she donated $174,800 to the campaign -- well over
>> the contribution limit of $2,300.
>>
>>     The answer she gave them was simple. "That's an error."
>>
>> Is the Obama campaign knowingly receiving illegal contributions?
>> Yesterday one of our readers reported the results of an experiment he
>> conducted:
>>
>>     I've read recent reports of the Obama campaign receiving donations
>> from dubious names and foreign locales and it got me wondering: How is
>> this possible?
>>
>>     I run a small Internet business and when I process credit cards
>> I'm required to make sure the name on the card exactly matches the
>> name of the customer making the purchase. Also, the purchaser's
>> address must match that of the cardholders. If these don't match, then
>> the payment isn't approved. Period. So how is it possible that the
>> Obama campaign could receive donations from fictional people and
>> places? Well, I decided to do a little experiment. I went to the Obama
>> campaign website and entered the following:
>>
>>     Name: John Galt
>>     Address: 1957 Ayn Rand Lane
>>     City: Galts Gulch
>>     State: CO
>>     Zip: 99999
>>
>>     Then I checked the box next to $15 and entered my actual credit
>> card number and expiration date (it didn't ask for the 3-didgit code
>> on the back of the card) and it took me to the next page and... "Your
>> donation has been processed. Thank you for your generous gift."
>>
>>     This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or
>> any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't
>> see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit
>> card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process,
>> potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where
>> the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.
>>
>>     In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an
>> individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up
>> fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate
>> this fraud. This is truly scandalous.
>>
>> Our reader was not yet done. He tried the experiment on the McCain
>> site: "I tried the exact same thing at the McCain site and it didn't
>> allow the transaction." He then repeated the experiment at the Obama
>> site:
>>
>>     I went back to the Obama site and made three additional donations
>> using the names Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Bill Ayers, all
>> with different addresses. All the transactions went through using the
>> same credit card. I saved screenshots of the transactions.
>>
>> Our reader reports, incidentally, that he was using his MasterCard for
>> the contributions. We submit this report in the spirit of inquiry and
>> would especially appreciate hearing from readers who can illuminate
>> how credit card procedures might (or might not) allow this to happen.
>>
>> UPDATE: Readers have replicated the experiment reported in this post.
>> We will have to revisit the issue tonight or tomorrow and appreciate
>> any information you can provide in the meantime.
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