[Rhodes22-list] Political reply to Ben C - you are kidding?

[Tootle]

“Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar…”  “Surely you realize this post graduate
grant is the single most prestigious, competitive, sought after,
challenging, and rewarding academic honor that a college graduate can
receive. Please tell me you accept that fact.” 

Ben in American it is acceptable to have people with other opinions.  It is
understood that one opinion is not necessarily the absolute epiphany.

So as to your statement, I will accept what you said about ‘a Rhodes
Scholar’ as fact to you.  And that is your opinion.

My opinion is not the same and my values are not the same.  And I know other
Americans who share my opinion, and may know some who share yours.

As for the part that part that says, “single most prestigious, competitive,
sought after, challenging, and rewarding academic honor…”  I suggest that
may be true, but only to those who seek that specific type recognition.  

Your definition does not include ‘Scientific Achievements’ of an academic
nature.  Your definition does not include ‘Achievements’ of economic,
religious, social (to include community) and a plethora of achievements that
may have other or different academic measurements.

So I give the Rhodes Scholar the same or equal weight as cum laude or summa
cum laude, or other academic honors.  

In summary, while it is nice to have some who go to another country to study
for a year or two, I do not limit my recognition of important achievement to
that group.  I am not a Mormon, but their practice of sending young men on
missions to different parts of this country or other countries accomplishes
a similar education.  

A researcher who finds important medical facts about diseases to me is an
equal or greater achievement. than a Rhodes Scholar.  And, note that this
can be accomplished in an Academic laboratory.

A young lady who finds a husband and has several children and imparts into
those children important societal values to me is a higher achievement than
your Rhodes Scholar.

So, we do not agree.  Others are free to agree with you.  What we are
talking about is the difference between 'Conservative' values and
liberalism.

Ed K
addendum, ""A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the
high virtues of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of
necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are
of higher obligation."    Thomas Jefferson 






 









Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
> 
> Tootle;
> I recently called Bill Clinton a genius in defending my position that it
> is not her accent that makes Sarah Palin a moron. Clinton has a pronounced
> accent. 
> 
> As you must have known , but perhaps have blocked from your memory, Bill
> Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar.  Surely you realize this post graduate grant
> is the single most prestigious, competitive, sought after, challenging,
> and rewarding academic honor that a college graduate can receive. Please
> tell me you accept that fact. 
> 
> Bill Clinton speaks in complete, gramatically correct, coherant English
> sentences.  His paragraphs have a beginning, a middle and an end that hang
> together as eloquent expressions of a complete thought.
> 
> Bill Clinton can talk for hours on esoteric subjects of foreign and
> domestic policy, without notes.
> 
> He is spontaneously witty, charming, quick, and isn't afraid to appear
> "intellectual". He is utterly unafraid to be challenged on any subject by
> anyone, and is a persuasive advocate for his point of view.
> 
> Sarah Palin spouts transparently canned lines, which almost always include
> the words, "maverick, soccar Mom, pit bull, Joe six-pack, hockey mom, real
> americans, and/or you betcha" over and over.  She has one talent, sarcasm,
> and it is no wonder to me why she is so popular with some of the folks on
> this forum.
> 
> She wants to be VP to a man who has had multiple bouts with serious cancer
> and is of advanced age.
> 
> I am not alone in my assessment of this person.  David Brooks and other
> right of center writers like Peggy Noonan and others feel exactly the same
> way.  I'm in good company in my assessment.
> 
> Who thinks she is not a moron?  As far as I can tell, only afew hardy
> souls on this forum.  Well, good luck with that.
> 
> Ben C.
> 
> PS- for purposes of this discussion I define moron as a person of obvious
> intellectual incapacity who is also mean, nasty, sarcastic and adds
> nothing to the public discourse. It is a function of both attitude AND
> aptitude.  
> 
> PPS-Yes Tootle I know that makes me a moron in your eyes. I can live with
> that.
> 
> Tootle wrote:
>> 
>> Is he getting the thirst for 'politics'?  Maybe the governorship of say,
>> Illinois, Pennsylvania, Virginia ... sounds like he as an audience
>> waiting...
>> 
>> Ed K
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20149918/WigeeBoard.jpg WigeeBoard.jpg 
>> 
> 
> 

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