[Rhodes22-list] Political reply to Ben C - you are kidding?

[TN Rhodey]

Brad, Does Jindal sail a Rhodes? :-) I really haven't paid much attention to
Jindal so I don't have an opinion for or against. I need to get through this
election before I can look forward. I am undecided on many important local
choices/issues and still drifting....did you happen to see the idiot who
claimed she was attacked by black Obama supporter?....I saw a quick video
and she was wearing an orange Tennessee Volunteer Sweat Shirt. The guy that
hacked Palin's email account is a UT Student.... Good ole Rocky Top ....

Wally

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wally,
>
> If being a Rhodes Scholar is a prerequisite for the White House, I
> vote for Bobby Jindal.
>
> Brad
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ed, Perhaps you are letting your opinion of Clinton tarnish the
> achievement
> > of a Rhodes Scholarship. As Ben mentioned it is a highly sought
> > after ACADEMIC scholarship. This is not his definition this is reality.
> Is
> > there a more prestigious post graduate scholarship offered?
> >
> > A Rhodes scholarship is not awarded for raising a family or imparting
> your
> > approved values.  It is nothing like Mormons sent abroad.....they were
> not
> > selected for their mission based on academics. Many who achieve the
> academic
> > honors you mention are later selected for a Rhodes Scholarship.
> >
> > Most seem to recognize that a Rhodes Scholarship is awarded to the cream
> of
> > the academic crop. Beings a Rhodes Scholar does not guarantee high
> morals,
> > post graduate achievement, or groom one for future presidency. I wonder
> how
> > many Rhodes scholars own Rhodes sailboats?
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar…"  "Surely you realize this post
> >> graduate
> >> grant is the single most prestigious, competitive, sought after,
> >> challenging, and rewarding academic honor that a college graduate can
> >> receive. Please tell me you accept that fact."
> >>
> >> Ben in American it is acceptable to have people with other opinions.  It
> is
> >> understood that one opinion is not necessarily the absolute epiphany.
> >>
> >> So as to your statement, I will accept what you said about 'a Rhodes
> >> Scholar' as fact to you.  And that is your opinion.
> >>
> >> My opinion is not the same and my values are not the same.  And I know
> >> other
> >> Americans who share my opinion, and may know some who share yours.
> >>
> >> As for the part that part that says, "single most prestigious,
> competitive,
> >> sought after, challenging, and rewarding academic honor…"  I suggest
> that
> >> may be true, but only to those who seek that specific type recognition.
> >>
> >> Your definition does not include 'Scientific Achievements' of an
> academic
> >> nature.  Your definition does not include 'Achievements' of economic,
> >> religious, social (to include community) and a plethora of achievements
> >> that
> >> may have other or different academic measurements.
> >>
> >> So I give the Rhodes Scholar the same or equal weight as cum laude or
> summa
> >> cum laude, or other academic honors.
> >>
> >> In summary, while it is nice to have some who go to another country to
> >> study
> >> for a year or two, I do not limit my recognition of important
> achievement
> >> to
> >> that group.  I am not a Mormon, but their practice of sending young men
> on
> >> missions to different parts of this country or other countries
> accomplishes
> >> a similar education.
> >>
> >> A researcher who finds important medical facts about diseases to me is
> an
> >> equal or greater achievement. than a Rhodes Scholar.  And, note that
> this
> >> can be accomplished in an Academic laboratory.
> >>
> >> A young lady who finds a husband and has several children and imparts
> into
> >> those children important societal values to me is a higher achievement
> than
> >> your Rhodes Scholar.
> >>
> >> So, we do not agree.  Others are free to agree with you.  What we are
> >> talking about is the difference between 'Conservative' values and
> >> liberalism.
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >> addendum, ""A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of
> the
> >> high virtues of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of
> >> necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger,
> are
> >> of higher obligation."    Thomas Jefferson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Tootle;
> >> > I recently called Bill Clinton a genius in defending my position that
> it
> >> > is not her accent that makes Sarah Palin a moron. Clinton has a
> >> pronounced
> >> > accent.
> >> >
> >> > As you must have known , but perhaps have blocked from your memory,
> Bill
> >> > Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar.  Surely you realize this post graduate
> >> grant
> >> > is the single most prestigious, competitive, sought after,
> challenging,
> >> > and rewarding academic honor that a college graduate can receive.
> Please
> >> > tell me you accept that fact.
> >> >
> >> > Bill Clinton speaks in complete, gramatically correct, coherant
> English
> >> > sentences.  His paragraphs have a beginning, a middle and an end that
> >> hang
> >> > together as eloquent expressions of a complete thought.
> >> >
> >> > Bill Clinton can talk for hours on esoteric subjects of foreign and
> >> > domestic policy, without notes.
> >> >
> >> > He is spontaneously witty, charming, quick, and isn't afraid to appear
> >> > "intellectual". He is utterly unafraid to be challenged on any subject
> by
> >> > anyone, and is a persuasive advocate for his point of view.
> >> >
> >> > Sarah Palin spouts transparently canned lines, which almost always
> >> include
> >> > the words, "maverick, soccar Mom, pit bull, Joe six-pack, hockey mom,
> >> real
> >> > americans, and/or you betcha" over and over.  She has one talent,
> >> sarcasm,
> >> > and it is no wonder to me why she is so popular with some of the folks
> on
> >> > this forum.
> >> >
> >> > She wants to be VP to a man who has had multiple bouts with serious
> >> cancer
> >> > and is of advanced age.
> >> >
> >> > I am not alone in my assessment of this person.  David Brooks and
> other
> >> > right of center writers like Peggy Noonan and others feel exactly the
> >> same
> >> > way.  I'm in good company in my assessment.
> >> >
> >> > Who thinks she is not a moron?  As far as I can tell, only afew hardy
> >> > souls on this forum.  Well, good luck with that.
> >> >
> >> > Ben C.
> >> >
> >> > PS- for purposes of this discussion I define moron as a person of
> obvious
> >> > intellectual incapacity who is also mean, nasty, sarcastic and adds
> >> > nothing to the public discourse. It is a function of both attitude AND
> >> > aptitude.
> >> >
> >> > PPS-Yes Tootle I know that makes me a moron in your eyes. I can live
> with
> >> > that.
> >> >
> >> > Tootle wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Is he getting the thirst for 'politics'?  Maybe the governorship of
> say,
> >> >> Illinois, Pennsylvania, Virginia ... sounds like he as an audience
> >> >> waiting...
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed K
> >> >>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20149918/WigeeBoard.jpg WigeeBoard.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
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