[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Meet the Press

Sat Oct 25 18:35:18 EDT 2008

Address that argument to cowards and to knaves; with the free and the
brave it will effect nothing. It may be true; if it must, let it. .  .
 . The probability that we may fall in the struggle ought not to deter
us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. .  .  . Let none
falter, who thinks he is right, and we may succeed. But if after all,
we shall fail, be it so.

Abraham Lincoln - 1839

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> once again brad, you just want to believe the fiction that you want to
> believe.  palin attendance numbers have been grossly over reported. yes, she
> is drawing many many more than mccain for sure. she has excited the 'base'
> of religious righties that do not like mccain. now one of "them" could be
> back in office. yippie! not because she is a great politician, but because
> she is a 'end times true believer'.
>
> her poll numbers have only been headed in one direction since her initial
> explosion and that is straight down.  many real conservatives have jumped
> ship using her as one of the key reasons. the evidence now shows that she is
> actually dragging mccain down.
>
> sorry brad, she's gonna break your heart
>
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> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>
>> Sarah Palin may single-handedly drag John McCain's sorry ass across
>> the finish line.  She's been drawing 20,000+ at almost every
>> appearance.  In the past few days, she's taken a "screw the handlers
>> from the McCain campaign" attitude and started deviating from the
>> script. Keep trash talking her you detractors, you can "cool your
>> jets" in the dustbin of history with the rest of the "good 'ole' boys"
>> who underestimated her in Alaska.
>>
>> First, there's this from the LA Times - (I'll attach the article as well)
>>
>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/sarah-palin-b-3.html
>>
>> Then there's gaffe-a-minute Botoxin Joe (the guy can't even wrinkle
>> his forehead when he's pissed anymore). Now the Obama campaign is
>> keeping Joe away from the microphones.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs
>>
>> You go Girl!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> s it possible we've been living in a bubble for the last several
>> weeks, not noticing a complete role reversal between the Democratic
>> vice presidential candidate, Sen. Joe Biden, and his Republican
>> counterpart, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska?
>>
>> The always astute Jake Tapper over at ABC makes a shocking point:
>>
>> Now, Palin, who was once so sequestered from the media it allowed her
>> opponents to caricature her and helped create "Free Sarah Palin"
>> buttons, is meeting with more and more national reporters and,
>> unreported by them, numerous local media types at virtually every
>> campaign stop.
>>
>> Alaska Governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin
>> and Democratic Senator and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden of
>> Delaware
>>
>> There's an interview with the Chicago Tribune today, reported here in
>> The Ticket and on CNN earlier this week. She walks back and chats with
>> reporters on her campaign plane.
>>
>> And, contrary to the silent fears of the McCain controllers, she's
>> doing just fine.
>>
>> But Biden is something else entirely. We've got Joe the Plumber and
>> Joe Six-Pack. But Joe Delaware-by-way-of-Scranton has gone missing.
>>
>> Obama officials will deny it. But he's clearly been muzzled by the
>> Democratic campaign that's for real change.
>>
>> The old veteran, who's been in the Senate since Obama was a kid and
>> was hired as No. 2 for the foreign affairs cover he gives the freshman
>> Illinois senator, has put his foot in his Delaware mouth a few too
>> many times for the Windy City campaign chieftains.
>>
>> Tapper points out, amazingly, that Biden has not taken questions from
>> his crowds of supporters since Sept. 10. That's before some of us
>> learned Tampa Bay has a baseball team.
>>
>> That date just happens to be when, you may recall (but here's the
>> Ticket item to refresh your memory) Biden so famously ruminated aloud
>> on-stage that Hillary Clinton might have made a better VP pick than
>> him. (See and watch the curious video by clicking on the "Read more"
>> line below.)
>>
>> Something Palin promptly agreed on with him.
>>
>> But that's not what the cocky White Sox fan wanted to hear, in part
>> because in terms of....
>>
>> ...Democratic votes anyway, Biden's probably right. Look how well he
>> did during the Democratic primaries. Sure wasn't an 18
>> million-vote-getter.
>>
>> And Biden has not held a press availability since Sept. 7, three days
>> before that gaffe, on his plane en route to Big Sky Country.
>>
>> That means for almost seven of the eight weeks between the Republican
>> convention and the Nov. 4 election Biden's been gagged to the media.
>> How much of a plus can this guy be to the over-funded Obama campaign
>> if he's forbidden from chatting up even his own media crowd?
>>
>> And if he's so ready to become president in a skipped heartbeat, what
>> conceivable crowd questions are so scary they've, in effect, been
>> forbidden? Besides "Do you think Hillary Clinton should have won?"
>>
>> Politicians don't usually go missing like that until after they've
>> become vice presidents.
>>
>> Even Ron Paul and Countrywide Dodd from Connecticut took more questions.
>>
>> But Biden still manages to get in verbal trouble, even when he's
>> talking in supposedly closed fundraisers. (Hello, presidential
>> campaign whose candidate described bitter small-town people clinging
>> to faith and guns to just such a crowd himself at considerable cost to
>> him in Pennsylvania.)
>>
>> Biden in Seattle last weekend predicted -- guaranteed -- that
>> America's enemies would test this recent former state senator within
>> six months of Inauguration Day. A valid, historically accurate point
>> that Palin, John McCain and their surrogates are only too happy to
>> repeat to crowd after crowd.
>>
>> Tapper notes, fairly, that a Biden spokesman (is that job really
>> necessary under the circumstances?) disagrees with that assessment.
>> But then the political veteran adds: "in terms of general availability
>> to their traveling press corps, Biden's and Palin's roles are
>> switching."
>>
>> Does anybody seriously think that if the trend was going the other
>> way, we would not have heard by now endless accounts of her hiding?
>>
>> -- Andrew Malcolm
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