[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Meet the Press

Sun Oct 26 08:39:09 EDT 2008

uh oh. things are getting tough. brad is throwing lincoln quotes at
me......is that a violation of list rules? 

Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Address that argument to cowards and to knaves; with the free and the
> brave it will effect nothing. It may be true; if it must, let it. .  .
>  . The probability that we may fall in the struggle ought not to deter
> us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. .  .  . Let none
> falter, who thinks he is right, and we may succeed. But if after all,
> we shall fail, be it so.
> 
> Abraham Lincoln - 1839
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> once again brad, you just want to believe the fiction that you want to
>> believe.  palin attendance numbers have been grossly over reported. yes,
>> she
>> is drawing many many more than mccain for sure. she has excited the
>> 'base'
>> of religious righties that do not like mccain. now one of "them" could be
>> back in office. yippie! not because she is a great politician, but
>> because
>> she is a 'end times true believer'.
>>
>> her poll numbers have only been headed in one direction since her initial
>> explosion and that is straight down.  many real conservatives have jumped
>> ship using her as one of the key reasons. the evidence now shows that she
>> is
>> actually dragging mccain down.
>>
>> sorry brad, she's gonna break your heart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Sarah Palin may single-handedly drag John McCain's sorry ass across
>>> the finish line.  She's been drawing 20,000+ at almost every
>>> appearance.  In the past few days, she's taken a "screw the handlers
>>> from the McCain campaign" attitude and started deviating from the
>>> script. Keep trash talking her you detractors, you can "cool your
>>> jets" in the dustbin of history with the rest of the "good 'ole' boys"
>>> who underestimated her in Alaska.
>>>
>>> First, there's this from the LA Times - (I'll attach the article as
>>> well)
>>>
>>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/sarah-palin-b-3.html
>>>
>>> Then there's gaffe-a-minute Botoxin Joe (the guy can't even wrinkle
>>> his forehead when he's pissed anymore). Now the Obama campaign is
>>> keeping Joe away from the microphones.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs
>>>
>>> You go Girl!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> s it possible we've been living in a bubble for the last several
>>> weeks, not noticing a complete role reversal between the Democratic
>>> vice presidential candidate, Sen. Joe Biden, and his Republican
>>> counterpart, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska?
>>>
>>> The always astute Jake Tapper over at ABC makes a shocking point:
>>>
>>> Now, Palin, who was once so sequestered from the media it allowed her
>>> opponents to caricature her and helped create "Free Sarah Palin"
>>> buttons, is meeting with more and more national reporters and,
>>> unreported by them, numerous local media types at virtually every
>>> campaign stop.
>>>
>>> Alaska Governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin
>>> and Democratic Senator and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden of
>>> Delaware
>>>
>>> There's an interview with the Chicago Tribune today, reported here in
>>> The Ticket and on CNN earlier this week. She walks back and chats with
>>> reporters on her campaign plane.
>>>
>>> And, contrary to the silent fears of the McCain controllers, she's
>>> doing just fine.
>>>
>>> But Biden is something else entirely. We've got Joe the Plumber and
>>> Joe Six-Pack. But Joe Delaware-by-way-of-Scranton has gone missing.
>>>
>>> Obama officials will deny it. But he's clearly been muzzled by the
>>> Democratic campaign that's for real change.
>>>
>>> The old veteran, who's been in the Senate since Obama was a kid and
>>> was hired as No. 2 for the foreign affairs cover he gives the freshman
>>> Illinois senator, has put his foot in his Delaware mouth a few too
>>> many times for the Windy City campaign chieftains.
>>>
>>> Tapper points out, amazingly, that Biden has not taken questions from
>>> his crowds of supporters since Sept. 10. That's before some of us
>>> learned Tampa Bay has a baseball team.
>>>
>>> That date just happens to be when, you may recall (but here's the
>>> Ticket item to refresh your memory) Biden so famously ruminated aloud
>>> on-stage that Hillary Clinton might have made a better VP pick than
>>> him. (See and watch the curious video by clicking on the "Read more"
>>> line below.)
>>>
>>> Something Palin promptly agreed on with him.
>>>
>>> But that's not what the cocky White Sox fan wanted to hear, in part
>>> because in terms of....
>>>
>>> ...Democratic votes anyway, Biden's probably right. Look how well he
>>> did during the Democratic primaries. Sure wasn't an 18
>>> million-vote-getter.
>>>
>>> And Biden has not held a press availability since Sept. 7, three days
>>> before that gaffe, on his plane en route to Big Sky Country.
>>>
>>> That means for almost seven of the eight weeks between the Republican
>>> convention and the Nov. 4 election Biden's been gagged to the media.
>>> How much of a plus can this guy be to the over-funded Obama campaign
>>> if he's forbidden from chatting up even his own media crowd?
>>>
>>> And if he's so ready to become president in a skipped heartbeat, what
>>> conceivable crowd questions are so scary they've, in effect, been
>>> forbidden? Besides "Do you think Hillary Clinton should have won?"
>>>
>>> Politicians don't usually go missing like that until after they've
>>> become vice presidents.
>>>
>>> Even Ron Paul and Countrywide Dodd from Connecticut took more questions.
>>>
>>> But Biden still manages to get in verbal trouble, even when he's
>>> talking in supposedly closed fundraisers. (Hello, presidential
>>> campaign whose candidate described bitter small-town people clinging
>>> to faith and guns to just such a crowd himself at considerable cost to
>>> him in Pennsylvania.)
>>>
>>> Biden in Seattle last weekend predicted -- guaranteed -- that
>>> America's enemies would test this recent former state senator within
>>> six months of Inauguration Day. A valid, historically accurate point
>>> that Palin, John McCain and their surrogates are only too happy to
>>> repeat to crowd after crowd.
>>>
>>> Tapper notes, fairly, that a Biden spokesman (is that job really
>>> necessary under the circumstances?) disagrees with that assessment.
>>> But then the political veteran adds: "in terms of general availability
>>> to their traveling press corps, Biden's and Palin's roles are
>>> switching."
>>>
>>> Does anybody seriously think that if the trend was going the other
>>> way, we would not have heard by now endless accounts of her hiding?
>>>
>>> -- Andrew Malcolm
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