[Rhodes22-list] Herb; check this out

[Herb Parsons]

Ouch!!! I said $28 a day, I meant $28 a month.

Herb Parsons wrote:
> It was said tongue in cheek. My point being, that the riots that 
> happened should not have happened over the killing of King. And of 
> course, it's nothing can be "proven", but my belief is that most of 
> those "disenfranchised" that rioted were looking for an excuse. Most of 
> us are looking for excuses just to live our lives, not break into 
> buildings, steal from others, and burn and destroy.
>
> New Orleans was devastated by Katrina. So was Gulfport Mississippi. 
> Though NO was 5 times the size of Gulfport, the median income is roughly 
> the same for both cities. In one city there was mass looting, in the 
> other, there was not. One city had a population that has been 
> indoctrinated with the notions that "we are disenfranchised" and "we are 
> owed", and reacted accordingly. The other city did not have that legacy.
>
> I started to write a post earlier, and just gave up, but will mention 
> the thought now. The Chinese immigrants in the mid-late 1800's were 
> treated as virtual slaves. We didn't call them that, but that's 
> essentially what they were (work for $28 a day, and owe it all back to 
> the company store, and you're a slave). Yet somehow, they as a 
> population, but the progeny and new Chinese immigrants somehow manage to 
> make a way.
>
> It's not racism. It's not true disenfranchisement. It's a cultural 
> thing. You and I will never be able to change the cultures involved in 
> the problem. They much change the culture, and step 1 is deciding they 
> want to change it.
>
> As to your question about whether or not there would be rioting in the 
> street in the scenario described? Yes Elle, I do believe here would be. 
> As a matter of fact, I believe that some of them will take to the 
> streets if Obama simply looses. I'm glad those idiots got arrested, but 
> from I've read of it, it sounds more like it was barnyard posturing by 
> some roosters instead of a real threat. At least the Obama part, I have 
> no doubt that
>
> A black girl makes a false claim about attacks, and she is not only 
> supported by the community, the whites are STILL pilloried even after 
> her story is made false.
>
> A white girl makes a false claim about being attacked by supporters of 
> black candidate, and her story is quickly debunked, and she (though 
> clearly a psychologically disturbed woman) is blasted. That's partially 
> how it should be (the first part, not the latter), but that's the way it 
> should always be.
>
> I won't even talk about the Duke incident, other than to say what if 
> those guys had simply been white, instead of rich and white and able to 
> afford a good defense attorney.
>
> There are some things that have gone terribly wrong, the pendulum has 
> swung to far the other direction. It will right itself eventually (I 
> believe), but unless efforts are made (and it better be by folks other 
> than the Revs Jackson and Sharp), I believe the pendulum will do what 
> they're designed to do, and swing the other way again.
>
>
> elle wrote:
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>> Herb,
>>
>> I don't quite know how to respond...JFK and MLK are apples and oranges.
>>
>> I believe it has to do with folks' aspirations and senses of entitlement...that did not exist w/JFK...it did w/MKL (although his message and Obambi's are not the same)...and certainly does w/La Bamba.
>>
>> Obama is making promises that a careful listener will see will take more than just this saying he'll do it...(Of course a Dem. congress will make his job easier...)
>>
>> If this Gold Mine of a savior meets up with a catastrophe, (and I am NOT in any way, shape, form or method promoting such an event) you don't believe that the suddenly disenfranchised will take to the streets as they did in the 60's?
>>
>> elle
>>
>>
>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>
>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
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>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] check this out
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:40 PM
>>> Yeah, I remember when JFK was shot. I was a Catholic kid at
>>> the time, 
>>> and remember all the Irish-Americans and Catholics rioting
>>> in the street 
>>> THEN??? Looting, burning buildings (even those of Irish
>>> Cahtolics!!)) 
>>> Wow, what a time that was ....
>>>
>>> Oh wait ....
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Huh... so, that didn't happen huh.... wow.
>>>
>>>
>>> elle wrote:
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>>>> Just up on the news:
>>>>
>>>> ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama
>>>>
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>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot
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>>>> I shudder to think what would happen...would make the
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>>> riots after MLK's murder seem tame....why are we not
>>> surprised to see this??? OB is  terribly devisive & my
>>> bet is that we will have 'class wars' erupt  from
>>> his policies....
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>>>> What i s it I see?? Jesse & AS to the podium.
>>>>
>>>> elle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
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>>> can adjust our sails.
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>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
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>>>   (Lady in Red)
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