[Rhodes22-list] Herb; check this out

Mon Oct 27 20:40:05 EDT 2008

Herb,

I do agree with your post below...all of it....and you expressed it for me.....my concern as we see the pendulum swing back is who is in the way on the downward stroke.

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Herb; check this out
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 8:32 PM
> It was said tongue in cheek. My point being, that the riots
> that 
> happened should not have happened over the killing of King.
> And of 
> course, it's nothing can be "proven", but my
> belief is that most of 
> those "disenfranchised" that rioted were looking
> for an excuse. Most of 
> us are looking for excuses just to live our lives, not
> break into 
> buildings, steal from others, and burn and destroy.
> 
> New Orleans was devastated by Katrina. So was Gulfport
> Mississippi. 
> Though NO was 5 times the size of Gulfport, the median
> income is roughly 
> the same for both cities. In one city there was mass
> looting, in the 
> other, there was not. One city had a population that has
> been 
> indoctrinated with the notions that "we are
> disenfranchised" and "we are 
> owed", and reacted accordingly. The other city did not
> have that legacy.
> 
> I started to write a post earlier, and just gave up, but
> will mention 
> the thought now. The Chinese immigrants in the mid-late
> 1800's were 
> treated as virtual slaves. We didn't call them that,
> but that's 
> essentially what they were (work for $28 a day, and owe it
> all back to 
> the company store, and you're a slave). Yet somehow,
> they as a 
> population, but the progeny and new Chinese immigrants
> somehow manage to 
> make a way.
> 
> It's not racism. It's not true disenfranchisement.
> It's a cultural 
> thing. You and I will never be able to change the cultures
> involved in 
> the problem. They much change the culture, and step 1 is
> deciding they 
> want to change it.
> 
> As to your question about whether or not there would be
> rioting in the 
> street in the scenario described? Yes Elle, I do believe
> here would be. 
> As a matter of fact, I believe that some of them will take
> to the 
> streets if Obama simply looses. I'm glad those idiots
> got arrested, but 
> from I've read of it, it sounds more like it was
> barnyard posturing by 
> some roosters instead of a real threat. At least the Obama
> part, I have 
> no doubt that
> 
> A black girl makes a false claim about attacks, and she is
> not only 
> supported by the community, the whites are STILL pilloried
> even after 
> her story is made false.
> 
> A white girl makes a false claim about being attacked by
> supporters of 
> black candidate, and her story is quickly debunked, and she
> (though 
> clearly a psychologically disturbed woman) is blasted.
> That's partially 
> how it should be (the first part, not the latter), but
> that's the way it 
> should always be.
> 
> I won't even talk about the Duke incident, other than
> to say what if 
> those guys had simply been white, instead of rich and white
> and able to 
> afford a good defense attorney.
> 
> There are some things that have gone terribly wrong, the
> pendulum has 
> swung to far the other direction. It will right itself
> eventually (I 
> believe), but unless efforts are made (and it better be by
> folks other 
> than the Revs Jackson and Sharp), I believe the pendulum
> will do what 
> they're designed to do, and swing the other way again.
> 
> 
> elle wrote:
> > Herb,
> >
> > I don't quite know how to respond...JFK and MLK
> are apples and oranges.
> >
> > I believe it has to do with folks' aspirations and
> senses of entitlement...that did not exist w/JFK...it did
> w/MKL (although his message and Obambi's are not the
> same)...and certainly does w/La Bamba.
> >
> > Obama is making promises that a careful listener will
> see will take more than just this saying he'll do
> it...(Of course a Dem. congress will make his job easier...)
> >
> > If this Gold Mine of a savior meets up with a
> catastrophe, (and I am NOT in any way, shape, form or method
> promoting such an event) you don't believe that the
> suddenly disenfranchised will take to the streets as they
> did in the 60's?
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>   (Lady in Red)
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] check this out
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:40 PM
> >> Yeah, I remember when JFK was shot. I was a
> Catholic kid at
> >> the time, 
> >> and remember all the Irish-Americans and Catholics
> rioting
> >> in the street 
> >> THEN??? Looting, burning buildings (even those of
> Irish
> >> Cahtolics!!)) 
> >> Wow, what a time that was ....
> >>
> >> Oh wait ....
> >>
> >> Really?
> >>
> >> Huh... so, that didn't happen huh.... wow.
> >>
> >>
> >> elle wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Just up on the news:
> >>>
> >>> ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate
> Obama
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot
> >>     
> >>> I shudder to think what would happen...would
> make the
> >>>       
> >> riots after MLK's murder seem tame....why are
> we not
> >> surprised to see this??? OB is  terribly devisive
> & my
> >> bet is that we will have 'class wars'
> erupt  from
> >> his policies....
> >>     
> >>> What i s it I see?? Jesse & AS to the
> podium.
> >>>
> >>> elle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we
> >>>       
> >> can adjust our sails.
> >>     
> >>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06 
> "WaterMusic"
> >>>       
> >>   (Lady in Red)
> >>     
> >>>       
> >>>
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