[Rhodes22-list] Herb; check this out

[Herb Parsons]

It was said tongue in cheek. My point being, that the riots that 
happened should not have happened over the killing of King. And of 
course, it's nothing can be "proven", but my belief is that most of 
those "disenfranchised" that rioted were looking for an excuse. Most of 
us are looking for excuses just to live our lives, not break into 
buildings, steal from others, and burn and destroy.

New Orleans was devastated by Katrina. So was Gulfport Mississippi. 
Though NO was 5 times the size of Gulfport, the median income is roughly 
the same for both cities. In one city there was mass looting, in the 
other, there was not. One city had a population that has been 
indoctrinated with the notions that "we are disenfranchised" and "we are 
owed", and reacted accordingly. The other city did not have that legacy.

I started to write a post earlier, and just gave up, but will mention 
the thought now. The Chinese immigrants in the mid-late 1800's were 
treated as virtual slaves. We didn't call them that, but that's 
essentially what they were (work for $28 a day, and owe it all back to 
the company store, and you're a slave). Yet somehow, they as a 
population, but the progeny and new Chinese immigrants somehow manage to 
make a way.

It's not racism. It's not true disenfranchisement. It's a cultural 
thing. You and I will never be able to change the cultures involved in 
the problem. They much change the culture, and step 1 is deciding they 
want to change it.

As to your question about whether or not there would be rioting in the 
street in the scenario described? Yes Elle, I do believe here would be. 
As a matter of fact, I believe that some of them will take to the 
streets if Obama simply looses. I'm glad those idiots got arrested, but 
from I've read of it, it sounds more like it was barnyard posturing by 
some roosters instead of a real threat. At least the Obama part, I have 
no doubt that

A black girl makes a false claim about attacks, and she is not only 
supported by the community, the whites are STILL pilloried even after 
her story is made false.

A white girl makes a false claim about being attacked by supporters of 
black candidate, and her story is quickly debunked, and she (though 
clearly a psychologically disturbed woman) is blasted. That's partially 
how it should be (the first part, not the latter), but that's the way it 
should always be.

I won't even talk about the Duke incident, other than to say what if 
those guys had simply been white, instead of rich and white and able to 
afford a good defense attorney.

There are some things that have gone terribly wrong, the pendulum has 
swung to far the other direction. It will right itself eventually (I 
believe), but unless efforts are made (and it better be by folks other 
than the Revs Jackson and Sharp), I believe the pendulum will do what 
they're designed to do, and swing the other way again.


elle wrote:
> Herb,
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> I don't quite know how to respond...JFK and MLK are apples and oranges.
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> I believe it has to do with folks' aspirations and senses of entitlement...that did not exist w/JFK...it did w/MKL (although his message and Obambi's are not the same)...and certainly does w/La Bamba.
>
> Obama is making promises that a careful listener will see will take more than just this saying he'll do it...(Of course a Dem. congress will make his job easier...)
>
> If this Gold Mine of a savior meets up with a catastrophe, (and I am NOT in any way, shape, form or method promoting such an event) you don't believe that the suddenly disenfranchised will take to the streets as they did in the 60's?
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> elle
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> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
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> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
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> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
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>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] check this out
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:40 PM
>> Yeah, I remember when JFK was shot. I was a Catholic kid at
>> the time, 
>> and remember all the Irish-Americans and Catholics rioting
>> in the street 
>> THEN??? Looting, burning buildings (even those of Irish
>> Cahtolics!!)) 
>> Wow, what a time that was ....
>>
>> Oh wait ....
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Huh... so, that didn't happen huh.... wow.
>>
>>
>> elle wrote:
>>     
>>> Just up on the news:
>>>
>>> ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama
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>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot
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>>> I shudder to think what would happen...would make the
>>>       
>> riots after MLK's murder seem tame....why are we not
>> surprised to see this??? OB is  terribly devisive & my
>> bet is that we will have 'class wars' erupt  from
>> his policies....
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>>> What i s it I see?? Jesse & AS to the podium.
>>>
>>> elle
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>>>
>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>>       
>> can adjust our sails.
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>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
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>>   (Lady in Red)
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