[Rhodes22-list] Herb's sailing trip

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Oct 27 22:07:54 EDT 2008


I am going to hold you to that one!!!!

Down the ditch the motor is OK skipper, but once we hit the open water, 
I think it should only be used in emergencies. Forget the equipment 
hauler, any boat trip (even under power) is better than seeing the same 
highways again.


Brad Haslett wrote:
> Herb,
>
> Great story.  A beer drinking buddy of mine in Gulfport sold his
> center cockpit 30' S2, exactly like mine, three weeks before Katrina.
> The new owner's boat disappeared. Every time I'm in town he asks when
> I'm bringing the CoraShen down the "ditch" (Tenn-Tom waterway) for a
> cruise to Mexico.  The ditch takes about a week to Mobile and you have
> to motor the whole way.  I have an equipment trailer that would haul
> her if we built a cradle as an alternative.  Right now it's all big
> talk.  If we ever take action, you'll be the first person I call.
>
> Brad
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>   
>> A friend of mine from NO (Slidell actually), lost his boat that was
>> slipped across mine during Katrina. He used the insurance money to buy a
>> 39' Allied Princess in Florida, and needed it to be moved to Houston. We
>> planned on 7 days, but had a little trouble with the diesel and had to
>> detour to Biloxi.
>>
>> I had actually sailed my boat down the coast of Texas from Corpus
>> Christi to Port Isabel (and almost decided to move to Port Isabel in the
>> process), but that was the first time time to lose sight of land. There
>> is something almost magical about looking behind you, and suddenly
>> realizing that even the haze of the hotel buildings is gone, and all you
>> see is sky and water. I honestly believe that is what I was born for.
>>
>> The waves glow at night in some areas with the luminance of the marine
>> life in them. We had flying fish literally fly into the cockpit (we
>> didn't eat them, though I asked if they were decent food). I was shocked
>> at the depth, and breadth, of the Gulf waters that turn from blue to
>> brown from the flow of the Mississippi. And there's something that
>> almost haunting to hear an oil platform's low moan of a warning siren
>> when your surrounded by darkness and a light fog. Another memory that
>> stands out clearly was watching a Carnival Cruise liner pass in the
>> darkness, lit up like a small city, and thinking to myself "Those people
>> think THAT'S a cruise...."
>>
>> I've never been seasick in my life, and thought this would be a good
>> time to find how much I can take. Though we never had bad weather, the
>> second night out, it was VERY rough seas. The layout of the Allied
>> Princess doesn't have as much room as other boats the same size that
>> I've seen, and the "plan" was for the four of us was to alternate
>> between the two usable berths (one older guy couldn't stand watch, but
>> he was a great cook, and wanted to make one last sail, sadly, this was
>> it, he passed six months later, more on him in a moment). I was so
>> excited, I stayed awake all of the first night. The second night, the
>> rough sees night, I told them I was going to make room for myself in the
>> V-berth, so I wouldn't have to alternate berths. They all laughed and
>> said I'd last a night at the most.
>>
>> I remember bedding down after my 10-2 (10pm, 2am) watch in 10' seas,
>> thinking "OK, this isn't so bad. Sort of like a ride at Six Flags. I'm
>> not sure I can sleep though...." Next thing I knew, it was 6:30, and the
>> cook was asking me if I wanted to eat breakfast or sleep all day. They
>> all laughed about how they could see air underneath me on some of the
>> waves, but I never stirred.
>>
>> I had the last laugh, we had blueberry pancakes. ALL of them lost their
>> breakfast. I did not. I've still never been seasick. I hope for another
>> opportunity someday soon.
>>
>> The cook (I'm embarrassed to say I can't remember his name), had major
>> heart surgery about 6 months prior. He was told that he would probably
>> not survive. He sold his two boats, and his retirement homes, to provide
>> for his wife.
>>
>> Then he survived, and was boatless. He told the owner that he would like
>> to come with us for one final sail, but couldn't handle the rigors of
>> standing a regular watch. He would ride along, relieve briefly when
>> needed, but would cook all of our meals. This guy was amazing at what he
>> could cook on an alcohol stove, in a pitching boat on 10' seas. We ate
>> like kings, I kid you not. When we fixed the clogged fuel filters in
>> Biloxi, he begged off the rest of the trip. It was too hard on him, but
>> he thanked us profusely for the opportunity to sail again. I was proud
>> to have been a small part of giving that to another sailor.
>>
>> On last funny story from the trip. Because I was (believe it or not) the
>> youngest of the remaining 3 (at 49 years old), I drew cooking duties.
>> I'm not a cook. My first morning, I said "Well guys, no blueberry
>> pancakes, but I've done my best. You've got two choices:
>>
>> You can have scrambled egges
>>
>> Or you can go hungry"
>>
>> On the plus side, everyone kept breakfast down on that calm morning.
>>
>> Anyone (OK, ALMOST anyone) needing help moving a boat across the water,
>> give me a shout. That was one of the best vacations I've had.
>>
>>
>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>     
>>> Herb,
>>>         Tell me about the time on the Gulf, business or pleasure?  What form
>>> of transport.  Exotic or mundane?
>>> And yes no one should judge you (or me) till they've introduced themselves
>>> and gotten to know us, I think.
>>> Chris G
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the computer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I really DON'T mean to just be argumentative on this one, but I DON'T
>>>> see Metaphor's point. I've come home (after sailing across the gulf for
>>>> 10 days) to over 3000 emails in my in box. I dare say I didn't miss any
>>>> important ones. The little red X in Thunderbird is pretty easy to use.
>>>> It only takes me a line or two to see if an email is something I really
>>>> need, or just chatter. Most are chatter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>         Thanks for that well reasoned, and humorous response; like Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> C. I
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> never quite dispair, and then you come through with such a great
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> response.
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> I see Metaphor's point but if he just stays around till after the
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> election
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> he can bennifite from all the Fasciests, Commies, Sheep, and wolves on
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> this
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> list because after all we are all boating lambs...well except when it
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> comes
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> to which type of motor to use, or anchor or.......
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Dear Mr. Wager/Crabber?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you a gambler?  Perhaps a crabber?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rude?  Self impressed?  No sir, I'm a pilot.  Think about it and
>>>>>> figure it out for yourself.  Little man - aggrandized view of your own
>>>>>> importance?  What part of pilot don't you get?  I'm not a  aggrandized
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>       
>>>>>> little man, I am a god!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listen.  My adventures have been "bigger-than-life" for a kid of a
>>>>>> construction worker from a town of 650 people.  The amazing thing is,
>>>>>> they are not bullshit and if you envy them then you have a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, many of us on this board have dined and stayed at each other's
>>>>>> house, sailed on each other's boats, and come to each other's rescue
>>>>>> in private. You might want to lurk a bit longer before you become so
>>>>>> judgmental.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To answer your question about boats and boat names - I once owned a
>>>>>> Rhodes22 and I regret the day I sold it.  I now own a 30' S2 named the
>>>>>> "CoraShen" after my daughter Cora and her grandfather Mr. Shen.  Mr.
>>>>>> Shen died recently.  He was a "little man" who was "aggrandized" by
>>>>>> his thousands of employees and one of the kindest and gentlest men I
>>>>>> ever met.  His story is buried in the archives of this list.  There's
>>>>>> a lot of interesting history there, and as Ed would say, "search the
>>>>>> archives".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you should consider barking for awhile on this list before you
>>>>>> default to biting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Metaphor <mwager at bluecrab.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Mr. Haslitt,
>>>>>>> Sorry, but I get the impression that you are a rude, self impressed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> little
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> man with an aggrandized view of your own importance.   You copy a lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>> of
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>> posts from other sources, and tell grand stories about yourself and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>> your
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>> bigger-than-life adventures, but otherwise offer little of substance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> When
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> people don't agree with you, you belittle them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Do you own or sail a Rhodes?  If not, why are you even on this forum?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had many questions answered by sailors, but none by you I learn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> most
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> by simply listening to what they have to say.  You just seem to blow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> own horn so loudly that only you can hear the sound of your own
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> pomposity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> There are forums out there that are in the big leagues. You might find
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> challenges in one of those more demanding than pandering to your two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> friends
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> on this one.  Other forums that I participate in have an PM (private
>>>>>>> mnessage) option that  allows for personal conversation between
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> If it is not available on this thread, you might try regular emails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> between
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> you and your two other friends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I probably could figure out how to use the filters here, but too often
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> these threads, posts are not properly (should I say honestly) labeled,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> filters don't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, Metaphor is the name of my boat.  What is the name of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>> yours?
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Met, uh, Phor?
>>>>>>>> You're smart enough to bitch, you're probably smart enough to filter
>>>>>>>> your e-mail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Metaphor <mwager at bluecrab.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> I've got a simple question, but mostly applied to Herb and Brad, and
>>>>>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>>>>> to Tootle:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have jobs or real lives, or do you spend all day on the
>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>> and then posting to this forum?  There are a couple of other volume
>>>>>>>>> posters,
>>>>>>>>> but none so prolific as you are. I get the sense that the sailors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> are
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>> much giving up getting airtime in competition with the political
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> nature
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> this forum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I try to follow the various threads, but have lost interest in this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> because it has so little to do with sailing, Rhodes 22's or nautical
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> life
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> general.  Reading the same paranoid information from the three of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> you
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>> and over again is tiresome, so much so that I've begun to applaud
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> your
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> challengers -- Ben C, petelargo, etc.,  simply because they are
>>>>>>>>> challenging
>>>>>>>>> you, and I have (but not always) voted Republican.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your time would be better spent arguing on a political forum rather
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> sailing one, and leaving this forum to talk about the boring details
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Rhodes 22 -- you know, technical issues, innovative re-designs or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> fixes,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> sailing techniques, great sailing adventures, that kind of stuff of
>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>> to Rhodes 22 owners and sailors... certainly there would be fewer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> posts,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> the Rhodes 22 boat issues would not be so buried under the volume of
>>>>>>>>> political posts found here.  A search of the internet would probably
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> find
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> few sites that you might find more of a political nature.  Thanks...
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
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