[Rhodes22-list] Herb's sailing trip

Mon Oct 27 22:24:04 EDT 2008

Herb,

My boat will clear the lowest bridge at Mobile without demasting so
the ditch is just a time issue.  She'll sleep three adults easily
without anyone sharing a berth and I'm thinking that would be the
ideal number of crewmembers.  Did you have a fridge or just an
ice-box? (I have only an ice box).  My day-job airplane is going away
sometime after the first of the year and I don't have a class date
until June.  This Spring might be the perfect window of opportunity
for me.

Brad

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> I am going to hold you to that one!!!!
>
> Down the ditch the motor is OK skipper, but once we hit the open water,
> I think it should only be used in emergencies. Forget the equipment
> hauler, any boat trip (even under power) is better than seeing the same
> highways again.
>
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Herb,
>>
>> Great story.  A beer drinking buddy of mine in Gulfport sold his
>> center cockpit 30' S2, exactly like mine, three weeks before Katrina.
>> The new owner's boat disappeared. Every time I'm in town he asks when
>> I'm bringing the CoraShen down the "ditch" (Tenn-Tom waterway) for a
>> cruise to Mexico.  The ditch takes about a week to Mobile and you have
>> to motor the whole way.  I have an equipment trailer that would haul
>> her if we built a cradle as an alternative.  Right now it's all big
>> talk.  If we ever take action, you'll be the first person I call.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A friend of mine from NO (Slidell actually), lost his boat that was
>>> slipped across mine during Katrina. He used the insurance money to buy a
>>> 39' Allied Princess in Florida, and needed it to be moved to Houston. We
>>> planned on 7 days, but had a little trouble with the diesel and had to
>>> detour to Biloxi.
>>>
>>> I had actually sailed my boat down the coast of Texas from Corpus
>>> Christi to Port Isabel (and almost decided to move to Port Isabel in the
>>> process), but that was the first time time to lose sight of land. There
>>> is something almost magical about looking behind you, and suddenly
>>> realizing that even the haze of the hotel buildings is gone, and all you
>>> see is sky and water. I honestly believe that is what I was born for.
>>>
>>> The waves glow at night in some areas with the luminance of the marine
>>> life in them. We had flying fish literally fly into the cockpit (we
>>> didn't eat them, though I asked if they were decent food). I was shocked
>>> at the depth, and breadth, of the Gulf waters that turn from blue to
>>> brown from the flow of the Mississippi. And there's something that
>>> almost haunting to hear an oil platform's low moan of a warning siren
>>> when your surrounded by darkness and a light fog. Another memory that
>>> stands out clearly was watching a Carnival Cruise liner pass in the
>>> darkness, lit up like a small city, and thinking to myself "Those people
>>> think THAT'S a cruise...."
>>>
>>> I've never been seasick in my life, and thought this would be a good
>>> time to find how much I can take. Though we never had bad weather, the
>>> second night out, it was VERY rough seas. The layout of the Allied
>>> Princess doesn't have as much room as other boats the same size that
>>> I've seen, and the "plan" was for the four of us was to alternate
>>> between the two usable berths (one older guy couldn't stand watch, but
>>> he was a great cook, and wanted to make one last sail, sadly, this was
>>> it, he passed six months later, more on him in a moment). I was so
>>> excited, I stayed awake all of the first night. The second night, the
>>> rough sees night, I told them I was going to make room for myself in the
>>> V-berth, so I wouldn't have to alternate berths. They all laughed and
>>> said I'd last a night at the most.
>>>
>>> I remember bedding down after my 10-2 (10pm, 2am) watch in 10' seas,
>>> thinking "OK, this isn't so bad. Sort of like a ride at Six Flags. I'm
>>> not sure I can sleep though...." Next thing I knew, it was 6:30, and the
>>> cook was asking me if I wanted to eat breakfast or sleep all day. They
>>> all laughed about how they could see air underneath me on some of the
>>> waves, but I never stirred.
>>>
>>> I had the last laugh, we had blueberry pancakes. ALL of them lost their
>>> breakfast. I did not. I've still never been seasick. I hope for another
>>> opportunity someday soon.
>>>
>>> The cook (I'm embarrassed to say I can't remember his name), had major
>>> heart surgery about 6 months prior. He was told that he would probably
>>> not survive. He sold his two boats, and his retirement homes, to provide
>>> for his wife.
>>>
>>> Then he survived, and was boatless. He told the owner that he would like
>>> to come with us for one final sail, but couldn't handle the rigors of
>>> standing a regular watch. He would ride along, relieve briefly when
>>> needed, but would cook all of our meals. This guy was amazing at what he
>>> could cook on an alcohol stove, in a pitching boat on 10' seas. We ate
>>> like kings, I kid you not. When we fixed the clogged fuel filters in
>>> Biloxi, he begged off the rest of the trip. It was too hard on him, but
>>> he thanked us profusely for the opportunity to sail again. I was proud
>>> to have been a small part of giving that to another sailor.
>>>
>>> On last funny story from the trip. Because I was (believe it or not) the
>>> youngest of the remaining 3 (at 49 years old), I drew cooking duties.
>>> I'm not a cook. My first morning, I said "Well guys, no blueberry
>>> pancakes, but I've done my best. You've got two choices:
>>>
>>> You can have scrambled egges
>>>
>>> Or you can go hungry"
>>>
>>> On the plus side, everyone kept breakfast down on that calm morning.
>>>
>>> Anyone (OK, ALMOST anyone) needing help moving a boat across the water,
>>> give me a shout. That was one of the best vacations I've had.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>         Tell me about the time on the Gulf, business or pleasure?  What form
>>>> of transport.  Exotic or mundane?
>>>> And yes no one should judge you (or me) till they've introduced themselves
>>>> and gotten to know us, I think.
>>>> Chris G
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the computer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really DON'T mean to just be argumentative on this one, but I DON'T
>>>>> see Metaphor's point. I've come home (after sailing across the gulf for
>>>>> 10 days) to over 3000 emails in my in box. I dare say I didn't miss any
>>>>> important ones. The little red X in Thunderbird is pretty easy to use.
>>>>> It only takes me a line or two to see if an email is something I really
>>>>> need, or just chatter. Most are chatter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>         Thanks for that well reasoned, and humorous response; like Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> C. I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> never quite dispair, and then you come through with such a great
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> response.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I see Metaphor's point but if he just stays around till after the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> election
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> he can bennifite from all the Fasciests, Commies, Sheep, and wolves on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> list because after all we are all boating lambs...well except when it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> comes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> to which type of motor to use, or anchor or.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Wager/Crabber?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you a gambler?  Perhaps a crabber?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rude?  Self impressed?  No sir, I'm a pilot.  Think about it and
>>>>>>> figure it out for yourself.  Little man - aggrandized view of your own
>>>>>>> importance?  What part of pilot don't you get?  I'm not a  aggrandized
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> little man, I am a god!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listen.  My adventures have been "bigger-than-life" for a kid of a
>>>>>>> construction worker from a town of 650 people.  The amazing thing is,
>>>>>>> they are not bullshit and if you envy them then you have a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, many of us on this board have dined and stayed at each other's
>>>>>>> house, sailed on each other's boats, and come to each other's rescue
>>>>>>> in private. You might want to lurk a bit longer before you become so
>>>>>>> judgmental.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To answer your question about boats and boat names - I once owned a
>>>>>>> Rhodes22 and I regret the day I sold it.  I now own a 30' S2 named the
>>>>>>> "CoraShen" after my daughter Cora and her grandfather Mr. Shen.  Mr.
>>>>>>> Shen died recently.  He was a "little man" who was "aggrandized" by
>>>>>>> his thousands of employees and one of the kindest and gentlest men I
>>>>>>> ever met.  His story is buried in the archives of this list.  There's
>>>>>>> a lot of interesting history there, and as Ed would say, "search the
>>>>>>> archives".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you should consider barking for awhile on this list before you
>>>>>>> default to biting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Metaphor <mwager at bluecrab.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr. Haslitt,
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I get the impression that you are a rude, self impressed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> little
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> man with an aggrandized view of your own importance.   You copy a lot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> posts from other sources, and tell grand stories about yourself and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> bigger-than-life adventures, but otherwise offer little of substance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> When
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> people don't agree with you, you belittle them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Do you own or sail a Rhodes?  If not, why are you even on this forum?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had many questions answered by sailors, but none by you I learn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> most
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> by simply listening to what they have to say.  You just seem to blow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> own horn so loudly that only you can hear the sound of your own
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pomposity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are forums out there that are in the big leagues. You might find
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> challenges in one of those more demanding than pandering to your two
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on this one.  Other forums that I participate in have an PM (private
>>>>>>>> mnessage) option that  allows for personal conversation between
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it is not available on this thread, you might try regular emails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you and your two other friends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I probably could figure out how to use the filters here, but too often
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> these threads, posts are not properly (should I say honestly) labeled,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> filters don't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, Metaphor is the name of my boat.  What is the name of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> yours?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Met, uh, Phor?
>>>>>>>>> You're smart enough to bitch, you're probably smart enough to filter
>>>>>>>>> your e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Metaphor <mwager at bluecrab.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've got a simple question, but mostly applied to Herb and Brad, and
>>>>>>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>>>>>> to Tootle:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have jobs or real lives, or do you spend all day on the
>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>> and then posting to this forum?  There are a couple of other volume
>>>>>>>>>> posters,
>>>>>>>>>> but none so prolific as you are. I get the sense that the sailors
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>> much giving up getting airtime in competition with the political
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> nature
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> this forum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I try to follow the various threads, but have lost interest in this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because it has so little to do with sailing, Rhodes 22's or nautical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> life
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> general.  Reading the same paranoid information from the three of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> and over again is tiresome, so much so that I've begun to applaud
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> challengers -- Ben C, petelargo, etc.,  simply because they are
>>>>>>>>>> challenging
>>>>>>>>>> you, and I have (but not always) voted Republican.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your time would be better spent arguing on a political forum rather
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> sailing one, and leaving this forum to talk about the boring details
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes 22 -- you know, technical issues, innovative re-designs or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> fixes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sailing techniques, great sailing adventures, that kind of stuff of
>>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>> to Rhodes 22 owners and sailors... certainly there would be fewer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> posts,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> the Rhodes 22 boat issues would not be so buried under the volume of
>>>>>>>>>> political posts found here.  A search of the internet would probably
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> find
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> few sites that you might find more of a political nature.  Thanks...
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/How-much-time-do-you-spend-on-the-computer--tp20180185p20180185.html
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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