[Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair - cap sealant? reply to Saroj

Tue Oct 28 12:00:59 EDT 2008

It's a royal PITA.  A socket wrench helps hold the nut underneath, but unless you have a very small one, even that might not fit up under the lip once you get toward the stern.  I didn't have a second person, so I was hunched over it for the better part of a day.  That's no exaggeration.

Ben S.

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Rik,
It takes really small hands and a second person. I recommend using an  
electric driver or you will be spending the better part of a day installing all  of 
them. I have never seen screws used on the trunk cap.

Rummy

In a message dated 10/28/2008 11:21:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sanderico1 at gmail.com writes:

Ed,

I have to ask, how would you use through bolts on the  centerboard cap of 
an R22?? I can't imagine how you are going to hold the  nuts to tighten them.

Rik

Will Rogers often said, "There's  nothing quite like money in the bank." He 
went on to say, "I'm not so  concerned about the return on my money as I am 
about the return of my  money."

Tootle wrote:
> Saroj:
>
> As to  sealants, do not use 5200 like some boat builders.  It is called
>  sealant but it is permanent and prevents future repair, painting,  etc.
>
> I recommend a sealant that says for under water  use.  3M 4000 or 4200 are
> numbers I can think of quickly.   Go to the 3M website and see which one is
> for underwater use.  (I  know the cap is not underwater, except at times)
>
> Another  popular product is Boat Life Sealant, not Boat Life Caulk.
>
> As  to silicone products, make sure it says for underwater use.  Silicone  
II
> is said to be the better formulation of silcone sealants.   
>
> I would not go to Lowes.  Go to any dockside marine  store or if you have to
> the high dollar 'West Marine'.  It would  be better to pay the few extra
> schekels at West to get a quality  product.
>
> As to screws and bolts, Stan uses a million bolts at  the shop.  Maybe older
> boats had a mix, but I would opt to go to  thru bolts, all one million of
> them.  Also, after you tighten all  the first time, go around a second time
> and maybe a third.  A  small 1/4" rachet works for this job.  If you do not
> have one,  head for Sears and get a Craftsman set.
>
> It is good to see your  post.  Are in in contact with any other 'Tidewater'
>  Rhodies?
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
>
> Saroj  Gilbert wrote:
>   
>> any chance I can ask a  question about the Rhodes22? LOL... 
>>
>> my centerboard  would not raise or lower so friend and I took the cap
>> apart; found  that the blocks had broken off the CB; scraped, sanded, and
>>  painted the inside of the cap, the well and the CB (all encrusted  with
>> barnacles).  We have it put back together except for the  cap which has the
>> gasket which was already there... appears in  pretty good shape.  We
>> modified some blocks which was  challenging since the attachment area is so
>> small.  Also did  some fiberglass repair on the CB and the keel.
>>
>> Two  questions:
>>
>> - most of the holes had screws but some had  bolts... I assume that an
>> earlier owner had stripped out the screw  holes.  Is it likely that reusing
>> the screws will provide  sufficient pressure to prevent leaks or should we
>> go to the  trouble of replacing all with bolts... I'd prefer not because
>>  there are so many, but I don't want leaks obviously.
>>
>> -  what sealant should we use? I took off the old sealant which was a  blue
>> colored rubbery substance that came off pretty easily from  both sides. 
>> Roger's instructions said to use silicone.  Is  there a particular type or
>> any old stuff from Lowes?  If we  use silicon, do we need to let it cure a
>> little before clamping  down 100% to give it a chance to cure? (seems to me
>> it requires  air to start the curing process).  Has anyone used RTV...
>>  overkill for this application?
>>
>> I have searched and  searched for the tech info material that was created
>> and organized  years ago with no luck.  Can someone give me a URL for it or
>>  does it no longer exist?
>>
>> Thanks, Saroj
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