[Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair - cap sealant? reply to Saroj

Tue Oct 28 18:02:44 EDT 2008

I've got more than my share of good wrenches and sockets so I'm in good 
shape there... if it gets above freezing here I'll be out there once I buy 
out the local bolt maker... LOL

Just kidding...its 53, but with a very chilly wind... since it was 80+ on 
Sunday, it feels very, very cold to me.

Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ben" <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair - cap sealant? reply to 
Saroj

> It's a royal PITA.  A socket wrench helps hold the nut underneath, but 
> unless you have a very small one, even that might not fit up under the lip 
> once you get toward the stern.  I didn't have a second person, so I was 
> hunched over it for the better part of a day.  That's no exaggeration.
>
> Ben S.
>
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair - cap sealant? reply to 
> Saroj
>
> Rik,
> It takes really small hands and a second person. I recommend using an
> electric driver or you will be spending the better part of a day 
> installing all  of
> them. I have never seen screws used on the trunk cap.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 10/28/2008 11:21:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sanderico1 at gmail.com writes:
>
> Ed,
>
> I have to ask, how would you use through bolts on the  centerboard cap of
> an R22?? I can't imagine how you are going to hold the  nuts to tighten 
> them.
>
> Rik
>
> Will Rogers often said, "There's  nothing quite like money in the bank." 
> He
> went on to say, "I'm not so  concerned about the return on my money as I 
> am
> about the return of my  money."
>
>
>
> Tootle wrote:
>> Saroj:
>>
>> As to  sealants, do not use 5200 like some boat builders.  It is called
>>  sealant but it is permanent and prevents future repair, painting,  etc.
>>
>> I recommend a sealant that says for under water  use.  3M 4000 or 4200 
>> are
>> numbers I can think of quickly.   Go to the 3M website and see which one 
>> is
>> for underwater use.  (I  know the cap is not underwater, except at times)
>>
>> Another  popular product is Boat Life Sealant, not Boat Life Caulk.
>>
>> As  to silicone products, make sure it says for underwater use.  Silicone
> II
>> is said to be the better formulation of silcone sealants.
>>
>> I would not go to Lowes.  Go to any dockside marine  store or if you have 
>> to
>> the high dollar 'West Marine'.  It would  be better to pay the few extra
>> schekels at West to get a quality  product.
>>
>> As to screws and bolts, Stan uses a million bolts at  the shop.  Maybe 
>> older
>> boats had a mix, but I would opt to go to  thru bolts, all one million of
>> them.  Also, after you tighten all  the first time, go around a second 
>> time
>> and maybe a third.  A  small 1/4" rachet works for this job.  If you do 
>> not
>> have one,  head for Sears and get a Craftsman set.
>>
>> It is good to see your  post.  Are in in contact with any other 
>> 'Tidewater'
>>  Rhodies?
>>
>> Ed K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Saroj  Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>> any chance I can ask a  question about the Rhodes22? LOL...
>>>
>>> my centerboard  would not raise or lower so friend and I took the cap
>>> apart; found  that the blocks had broken off the CB; scraped, sanded, 
>>> and
>>>  painted the inside of the cap, the well and the CB (all encrusted  with
>>> barnacles).  We have it put back together except for the  cap which has 
>>> the
>>> gasket which was already there... appears in  pretty good shape.  We
>>> modified some blocks which was  challenging since the attachment area is 
>>> so
>>> small.  Also did  some fiberglass repair on the CB and the keel.
>>>
>>> Two  questions:
>>>
>>> - most of the holes had screws but some had  bolts... I assume that an
>>> earlier owner had stripped out the screw  holes.  Is it likely that 
>>> reusing
>>> the screws will provide  sufficient pressure to prevent leaks or should 
>>> we
>>> go to the  trouble of replacing all with bolts... I'd prefer not because
>>>  there are so many, but I don't want leaks obviously.
>>>
>>> -  what sealant should we use? I took off the old sealant which was a 
>>> blue
>>> colored rubbery substance that came off pretty easily from  both sides.
>>> Roger's instructions said to use silicone.  Is  there a particular type 
>>> or
>>> any old stuff from Lowes?  If we  use silicon, do we need to let it cure 
>>> a
>>> little before clamping  down 100% to give it a chance to cure? (seems to 
>>> me
>>> it requires  air to start the curing process).  Has anyone used RTV...
>>>  overkill for this application?
>>>
>>> I have searched and  searched for the tech info material that was 
>>> created
>>> and organized  years ago with no luck.  Can someone give me a URL for it 
>>> or
>>>  does it no longer exist?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Saroj
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