[Rhodes22-list] Herb's sailing trip
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Tue Oct 28 20:32:23 EDT 2008
Actually, I think by any sailing standards (and probably some others as
well) puking over Chef-Boy-Ar-Dee doesn't qualify as seasickness.
Ben Cittadino wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I have mentioned that part of my excitment in acquiring a Rhodes 22 this
> year came from the fact that I served aboard a Philip Rhodes designed
> oceangoing minesweeper; a naval combatant vessel designed (and built) in the
> early 1950's when we needed wooden-hulled ships to avoid destruction
> (theoretically) from magnetic mines. She was 171' long, drew about 12' of
> water, had 4 500hp aluminum Packard diesel engines for main propulsion, twin
> variable pitch props, and could do about 16 kts wide open. She wasn't bad
> looking with a "tuna clipper type" bow and a low counter from which we could
> stream minesweeping gear off the stern. Mine was the USS EXPLOIT (MSO 440)
> and I was the engineering officer (the logical choice since I had been a
> political science major and knew nothing about diesels, electricity,
> machinery, or engineering).
>
> Anyway, I had never gotten seasick until some genius decided we should help
> land a battalion of marines at Reid State Park in Maine in JANUARY of 1972.
> Operation "Snowy Beach". I have never been so cold. We had an open bridge
> (no heat) and the weather was miserable. Our little division of 4 MSO's was
> ordered to a course that put us right in the trough of the seas. It was just
> like "The Caine Mutiny". We were taking the most frightening rolls in those
> seas (I swear to this day I read the clinometer as taking a 52 degree roll).
> I thought I was pretty salty but I was terrified.
>
> I got off watch and went below to try to wedge myself into a bunk, but had
> to pass through the crew's mess, where afew saltier Chiefs were chowing down
> on big plates of "Chef Boy ar Dee" canned ravioli. I lost my lunch, dinner
> and breakfast in one great barf. And the worst part is, once you're sick you
> stay sick. It was the worst three days of my life. I thought I was going to
> die.
>
> Thanks for evoking that memory. I haven't thought about my seasickness
> adventure in a long time.
>
> Best,
>
> Ben C.
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
>
>> Nice story, Herb. Thanks for writing it up. I can tell you something
>> about
>> sea sickness. I had it once but oddly it happened in much calmer seas
>> than
>> other rides I've been on so it might have been something I ate. It was
>> absolutely miserable. You only need one thing to make you comfortable
>> and
>> you're not going to get it--for the boat to stop rocking. So every second
>> is pure misery. I did all the things they say to do--stay top side and
>> watch the horizon, etc. but nothing stopped the motion so nothing stopped
>> the sickness. It eventually subsided after about an hour even though the
>> boat was still rocking and then I was fine. We didn't have Dramamine on
>> board so I don't know if that helps.
>>
>> Another time at sea when I was performing on a cruise ship, we hit a bad
>> storm and most were sick--not me this time. I've never seen so much mass
>> puking in my life. It was surrealistic and actually became funny but only
>> because it wasn't happening to me. The real tragedy was that every bottle
>> in the crew bar slid off the shelves and broke. Not funny.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Herb Parsons
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You know how sometimes you have a thought in your head - you know what
>>> you're thinking but can't quite put it into words? (Maybe you don't
>>> know, maybe that's just approaching senility) Anyway, you came up with
>>> the term I was looking for - I'd like to know what my threshold level is
>>> on seasickness.
>>>
>>> I'm sure if I was in a real storm (haven't been dere done dat yet) on
>>> the open water, and trying to sleep below, I'd succumb. I'm sure I'm not
>>> immune (I don't think anyone is), but I can tell that my tolerance is
>>> higher than many.
>>>
>>> Caesar Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Herb,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the account of your sailing trip; you told it well. I would
>>>>
>>> like to sail out in the wild and beautiful blue yonder sometime. My hope
>>> is
>>> that is somewhere in my future.
>>>
>>>> Sounds like it was a lot of fun. I have never been sea-sick either and
>>>>
>>> am curious to discover what my threshold level is.
>>>
>>>> Caesar
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Herb's sailing trip
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 6:36 PM
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine from NO (Slidell actually), lost his boat that was
>>>> slipped across mine during Katrina. He used the insurance money to buy
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> 39' Allied Princess in Florida, and needed it to be moved to Houston.
>>>>
>>> We
>>>
>>>> planned on 7 days, but had a little trouble with the diesel and had to
>>>> detour to Biloxi.
>>>>
>>>> I had actually sailed my boat down the coast of Texas from Corpus
>>>> Christi to Port Isabel (and almost decided to move to Port Isabel in
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> process), but that was the first time time to lose sight of land. There
>>>> is something almost magical about looking behind you, and suddenly
>>>> realizing that even the haze of the hotel buildings is gone, and all
>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> see is sky and water. I honestly believe that is what I was born for.
>>>>
>>>> The waves glow at night in some areas with the luminance of the marine
>>>> life in them. We had flying fish literally fly into the cockpit (we
>>>> didn't eat them, though I asked if they were decent food). I was
>>>>
>>> shocked
>>>
>>>> at the depth, and breadth, of the Gulf waters that turn from blue to
>>>> brown from the flow of the Mississippi. And there's something that
>>>> almost haunting to hear an oil platform's low moan of a warning siren
>>>> when your surrounded by darkness and a light fog. Another memory that
>>>> stands out clearly was watching a Carnival Cruise liner pass in the
>>>> darkness, lit up like a small city, and thinking to myself "Those
>>>>
>>> people
>>>
>>>> think THAT'S a cruise...."
>>>>
>>>> I've never been seasick in my life, and thought this would be a good
>>>> time to find how much I can take. Though we never had bad weather, the
>>>> second night out, it was VERY rough seas. The layout of the Allied
>>>> Princess doesn't have as much room as other boats the same size that
>>>> I've seen, and the "plan" was for the four of us was to alternate
>>>>
>>>> between the two usable berths (one older guy couldn't stand watch, but
>>>> he was a great cook, and wanted to make one last sail, sadly, this was
>>>> it, he passed six months later, more on him in a moment). I was so
>>>> excited, I stayed awake all of the first night. The second night, the
>>>> rough sees night, I told them I was going to make room for myself in
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> V-berth, so I wouldn't have to alternate berths. They all laughed and
>>>> said I'd last a night at the most.
>>>>
>>>> I remember bedding down after my 10-2 (10pm, 2am) watch in 10' seas,
>>>> thinking "OK, this isn't so bad. Sort of like a ride at Six Flags.
>>>> I'm
>>>> not sure I can sleep though...." Next thing I knew, it was 6:30, and
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> cook was asking me if I wanted to eat breakfast or sleep all day. They
>>>> all laughed about how they could see air underneath me on some of the
>>>> waves, but I never stirred.
>>>>
>>>> I had the last laugh, we had blueberry pancakes. ALL of them lost their
>>>> breakfast. I did not. I've still never been seasick. I hope for another
>>>> opportunity someday soon.
>>>>
>>>> The cook (I'm embarrassed to say I can't remember his name), had major
>>>> heart surgery about 6 months prior. He was told that he would probably
>>>> not survive. He sold his two boats, and his retirement homes, to
>>>>
>>> provide
>>>
>>>> for his wife.
>>>>
>>>> Then he survived, and was boatless. He told the owner that he would
>>>>
>>> like
>>>
>>>> to come with us for one final sail, but couldn't handle the rigors of
>>>> standing a regular watch. He would ride along, relieve briefly when
>>>> needed, but would cook all of our meals. This guy was amazing at what
>>>>
>>> he
>>>
>>>> could cook on an alcohol stove, in a pitching boat on 10' seas. We ate
>>>> like kings, I kid you not. When we fixed the clogged fuel filters in
>>>> Biloxi, he begged off the rest of the trip. It was too hard on him, but
>>>> he thanked us profusely for the opportunity to sail again. I was proud
>>>> to have been a small part of giving that to another sailor.
>>>>
>>>> On last funny story from the trip. Because I was (believe it or not)
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> youngest of the remaining 3 (at 49 years old), I drew cooking duties.
>>>> I'm not a cook. My first morning, I said "Well guys, no blueberry
>>>> pancakes, but I've done my best. You've got two choices:
>>>>
>>>> You can have scrambled egges
>>>>
>>>> Or you can go hungry"
>>>>
>>>> On the plus side, everyone kept breakfast down on that calm morning.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone (OK, ALMOST anyone) needing help moving a boat across the water,
>>>> give me a shout. That was one of the best vacations I've had.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> Tell me about the time on the Gulf, business or pleasure?
>>>>>
>>> What
>>>
>>>> form
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of transport. Exotic or mundane?
>>>>> And yes no one should judge you (or me) till they've introduced
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> themselves
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and gotten to know us, I think.
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the
>>>>>
>>> computer?
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really DON'T mean to just be argumentative on this one, but I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> DON'T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> see Metaphor's point. I've come home (after sailing across the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> gulf for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 10 days) to over 3000 emails in my in box. I dare say I didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> miss any
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> important ones. The little red X in Thunderbird is pretty easy to
>>>>>>
>>> use.
>>>
>>>>>> It only takes me a line or two to see if an email is something I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> really
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> need, or just chatter. Most are chatter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>> Thanks for that well reasoned, and humorous response; like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> C. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> never quite dispair, and then you come through with such a great
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> response.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see Metaphor's point but if he just stays around till after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> election
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> he can bennifite from all the Fasciests, Commies, Sheep, and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> wolves on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> list because after all we are all boating lambs...well except when
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> comes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to which type of motor to use, or anchor or.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much time do you spend on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> computer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Wager/Crabber?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you a gambler? Perhaps a crabber?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rude? Self impressed? No sir, I'm a pilot. Think about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> it and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> figure it out for yourself. Little man - aggrandized view of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> your own
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> importance? What part of pilot don't you get? I'm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> not a aggrandized
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> little man, I am a god!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Listen. My adventures have been "bigger-than-life"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> for a kid of a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> construction worker from a town of 650 people. The amazing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> thing is,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> they are not bullshit and if you envy them then you have a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again, many of us on this board have dined and stayed at each
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> other's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> house, sailed on each other's boats, and come to each
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> other's rescue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> in private. You might want to lurk a bit longer before you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> become so
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> judgmental.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To answer your question about boats and boat names - I once
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> owned a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rhodes22 and I regret the day I sold it. I now own a 30'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> S2 named the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> "CoraShen" after my daughter Cora and her
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> grandfather Mr. Shen. Mr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shen died recently. He was a "little man" who was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> "aggrandized" by
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> his thousands of employees and one of the kindest and gentlest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> men I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ever met. His story is buried in the archives of this list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> There's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> a lot of interesting history there, and as Ed would say,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> "search the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> archives".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should consider barking for awhile on this list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> before you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> default to biting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Metaphor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <mwager at bluecrab.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mr. Haslitt,
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I get the impression that you are a rude, self
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> impressed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> man with an aggrandized view of your own importance. You
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> copy a lot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> posts from other sources, and tell grand stories about
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> yourself and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bigger-than-life adventures, but otherwise offer little of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> substance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> people don't agree with you, you belittle them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you own or sail a Rhodes? If not, why are you even on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> this forum?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have had many questions answered by sailors, but none by
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> you I learn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> by simply listening to what they have to say. You just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> seem to blow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> own horn so loudly that only you can hear the sound of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> your own
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pomposity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are forums out there that are in the big leagues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> You might find
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> challenges in one of those more demanding than pandering
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> to your two
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on this one. Other forums that I participate in have an
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> PM (private
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mnessage) option that allows for personal conversation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> between
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it is not available on this thread, you might try
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> regular emails
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you and your two other friends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I probably could figure out how to use the filters here,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> but too often
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> these threads, posts are not properly (should I say
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> honestly) labeled,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> filters don't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, Metaphor is the name of my boat. What is the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> name of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> yours?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Met, uh, Phor?
>>>>>>>>>> You're smart enough to bitch, you're probably
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> smart enough to filter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Metaphor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> <mwager at bluecrab.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a simple question, but mostly applied
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> to Herb and Brad, and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>> to Tootle:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have jobs or real lives, or do you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> spend all day on the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>> and then posting to this forum? There are a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> couple of other volume
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> posters,
>>>>>>>>>>> but none so prolific as you are. I get the sense
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> that the sailors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>> much giving up getting airtime in competition with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> the political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> this forum.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I try to follow the various threads, but have lost
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> interest in this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> because it has so little to do with sailing,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Rhodes 22's or nautical
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> general. Reading the same paranoid information
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> from the three of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> and over again is tiresome, so much so that
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> I've begun to applaud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> challengers -- Ben C, petelargo, etc., simply
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> because they are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> challenging
>>>>>>>>>>> you, and I have (but not always) voted Republican.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your time would be better spent arguing on a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> political forum rather
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> sailing one, and leaving this forum to talk about
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> the boring details
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes 22 -- you know, technical issues,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> innovative re-designs or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fixes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sailing techniques, great sailing adventures, that
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> kind of stuff of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>>> to Rhodes 22 owners and sailors... certainly there
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> would be fewer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> posts,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> the Rhodes 22 boat issues would not be so buried
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> under the volume of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> political posts found here. A search of the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> internet would probably
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> few sites that you might find more of a political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> nature. Thanks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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