[Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
Benjamin Cittadino
bigben65 at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 29 20:53:35 EDT 2008
Dear Saroj;
Well THAT'S embarressing. I used to know a Saroj who was a guy. At least I
thought he was a guy. At least I thought he was a Saroj. Could that be a
name like Bobby or Billy Jo that can go either way?
Oh well, enjoy your lunch.
Best wishes,
Ben C.
Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>
> Very funny, Ben... we're both female and I'm not gay... have a very cute,
> kind and talented bf as a matter of fact... LOL
>
> Saroj
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Cittadino" <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
>
>
>>
>> Hey you guys!!!! No flirting on this forum!!! What is this , Match.com?
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>>>
>>> hmmm.. sent to watermusic38 at yahoo.com at 11:20 yesterday.
>>>
>>> did you get it yet?
>>>
>>> Give me a call when it works out for you to meet for coffee or lunch.
>>>
>>> Saroj
>>> 757 871-6697
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "elle" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
>>>
>>>
>>>> Saroj.
>>>>
>>>> 11:50pm...nothing yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> elle
>>>>
>>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>>>
>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Saroj Gilbert <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Saroj Gilbert <saroj at pathfind.net>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:21 PM
>>>>> I sent you an email back channel... let me know if it
>>>>> doesn't get to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "elle" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair - cap
>>>>> sealant? reply to
>>>>> Saroj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Saroj,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We're neighbors, of sorts.....I'm just a bit
>>>>> up the road in the upper
>>>>> > Northern Neck...I go to Newport News every two weeks
>>>>> on marina
>>>>> > business.......and will go thru Hampton in two weeks
>>>>> on my way to the
>>>>> > Outer Banks for a photo workshop.....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > elle
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>>>> can adjust our sails.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
>>>>> (Lady in Red)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Saroj Gilbert
>>>>> <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> From: Saroj Gilbert <saroj at pathfind.net>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair -
>>>>> cap sealant? reply to
>>>>> >> Saroj
>>>>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 2:27 PM
>>>>> >> Hey, Ed, Ben, Rob, Rik, Rummy, Lou,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks all for the info. Based on what I've
>>>>> read,
>>>>> >> I'm going to replace all
>>>>> >> the screws with bolts.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Lou, are you the one who did the write-up with
>>>>> Roger in
>>>>> >> 2005-2006? When you
>>>>> >> say "torque" are you implying you
>>>>> actually used a
>>>>> >> torque wrench or just as a
>>>>> >> euphemism for "tightened"?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> My centerboard lift line has a different
>>>>> configuration from
>>>>> >> that in the
>>>>> >> article I referenced above. It starts from a
>>>>> small U
>>>>> >> bracket fore of the
>>>>> >> foremost block on the cap. Since the blocks on
>>>>> the CB were
>>>>> >> broken I don't
>>>>> >> know how it was threaded below, but it seems to
>>>>> have gone
>>>>> >> from that loop
>>>>> >> thru the highest block on the CB, back up to the
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> foremost block on the
>>>>> >> cap (an inch aft of the loop), back down to the
>>>>> lower block
>>>>> >> on the CB (2-3
>>>>> >> inches below the other one) then up thru the aft
>>>>> block on
>>>>> >> the cap which acts
>>>>> >> as a fair lead, then thru the hole and nipple for
>>>>> the lift
>>>>> >> line. It seems
>>>>> >> that there should be another block lower down on
>>>>> the CB to
>>>>> >> give an extra
>>>>> >> mechanical advantage and more pull on the extreme,
>>>>> but I
>>>>> >> never had any
>>>>> >> trouble raising or lowering the CB before the
>>>>> break.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm still wondering what sealant/caulk to use.
>>>>> The guy
>>>>> >> at West Marine
>>>>> >> recommended 3M 4200 but I think it is essentially
>>>>> an
>>>>> >> adhesive like 5200,
>>>>> >> just not as permanent. Lou, what did you use?
>>>>> Seems like
>>>>> >> an underwater
>>>>> >> silicone (like Silicone II) would work well.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> >> never had any trouble
>>>>> >> with leaking, but I might as well do it right
>>>>> while its
>>>>> >> apart. I would
>>>>> >> consider changing the gasket but it appears to be
>>>>> in very
>>>>> >> good condition.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I've been renovating a 1937 house for the past
>>>>> 4 years,
>>>>> >> so Pathfinder has
>>>>> >> been on the hard in my back yard during that time.
>>>>> It
>>>>> >> wasn't worth paying
>>>>> >> the slip fees when I didn't have time to use
>>>>> it.
>>>>> >> We're replacing the mast
>>>>> >> lights... the anchor light lens was cloudy and I
>>>>> lost the
>>>>> >> steaming/deck
>>>>> >> light when a branch fell on it. I'm replacing
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> anchor light with an
>>>>> >> incandescent, but the steaming/deck light with
>>>>> LED. Figure
>>>>> >> that will help
>>>>> >> the battery charging life, and will be installing
>>>>> a solar
>>>>> >> panel for trickle
>>>>> >> charge.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> All of the brightwork needs sanding &
>>>>> varnishing and
>>>>> >> have to clean up some
>>>>> >> sap on the deck. Washed all the lines and the
>>>>> sails and
>>>>> >> she is just about
>>>>> >> back to sailing condition. She still looks great
>>>>> even at
>>>>> >> her advanced age
>>>>> >> of 24 years!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'll continue on with the cosmetic work
>>>>> (screens,
>>>>> >> varnish, polishingetc.)
>>>>> >> over the next year; but we're hoping to get a
>>>>> few sails
>>>>> >> in before winter
>>>>> >> "really" gets here, although the way
>>>>> things are
>>>>> >> going that may be
>>>>> >> optimisitc. Monday afternoon it was delightful
>>>>> sailing
>>>>> >> weather. Today it
>>>>> >> is windy and cold... unseasonably for this region.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ed, I met a fellow from Richmond a few years ago
>>>>> (Rob, was
>>>>> >> that you?), but I
>>>>> >> haven't run into any Rhodes owners in the
>>>>> Tidewater
>>>>> >> region. I'm living in
>>>>> >> Hampton now.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks all for your well wishes and the great
>>>>> information
>>>>> >> to help us get
>>>>> >> this project completed.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Saroj
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "Lou Rosenberg"
>>>>> <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
>>>>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:32 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] centerboard repair -
>>>>> cap
>>>>> >> sealant? reply to
>>>>> >> Saroj
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Rik
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I use 10x24 ss bolts on my cap. I prefer to
>>>>> tighten the
>>>>> >> nut under
>>>>> >> the cap using a closed end wrench with
>>>>> >> my electric driver and the correct wide phillips
>>>>> bit in
>>>>> >> place. Do a
>>>>> >> criss cross pattern like lacing up boots
>>>>> >> and torque the nut with a rachet wrench with the
>>>>> phillips
>>>>> >> bit and
>>>>> >> just hold the nut in place with the same closed
>>>>> end wrench
>>>>> >> (7/16")
>>>>> >> took me about 1hr to do 46 bolts.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ive overhauled my entire centerboard cap, trunk
>>>>> and board
>>>>> >> including
>>>>> >> the mechanical advantage
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Lou
>>>>> >> sv Miracles
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:43 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > Rik,
>>>>> >> > It takes really small hands and a second
>>>>> person. I
>>>>> >> recommend using an
>>>>> >> > electric driver or you will be spending the
>>>>> better
>>>>> >> part of a day
>>>>> >> > installing all of
>>>>> >> > them. I have never seen screws used on the
>>>>> trunk cap.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Rummy
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > In a message dated 10/28/2008 11:21:39 A.M.
>>>>> Eastern
>>>>> >> Daylight Time,
>>>>> >> > sanderico1 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Ed,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I have to ask, how would you use through
>>>>> bolts on the
>>>>> >> centerboard
>>>>> >> > cap of
>>>>> >> > an R22?? I can't imagine how you are
>>>>> going to hold
>>>>> >> the nuts to
>>>>> >> > tighten them.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Rik
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Will Rogers often said, "There's
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> >> quite like money in the
>>>>> >> > bank." He
>>>>> >> > went on to say, "I'm not so
>>>>> concerned about
>>>>> >> the return on my money
>>>>> >> > as I am
>>>>> >> > about the return of my money."
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Tootle wrote:
>>>>> >> >> Saroj:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> As to sealants, do not use 5200 like
>>>>> some boat
>>>>> >> builders. It is
>>>>> >> >> called
>>>>> >> >> sealant but it is permanent and prevents
>>>>> future
>>>>> >> repair,
>>>>> >> >> painting, etc.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I recommend a sealant that says for under
>>>>> water
>>>>> >> use. 3M 4000 or
>>>>> >> >> 4200 are
>>>>> >> >> numbers I can think of quickly. Go to
>>>>> the 3M
>>>>> >> website and see
>>>>> >> >> which one is
>>>>> >> >> for underwater use. (I know the cap is
>>>>> not
>>>>> >> underwater, except at
>>>>> >> >> times)
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Another popular product is Boat Life
>>>>> Sealant, not
>>>>> >> Boat Life Caulk.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> As to silicone products, make sure it
>>>>> says for
>>>>> >> underwater use.
>>>>> >> >> Silicone
>>>>> >> > II
>>>>> >> >> is said to be the better formulation of
>>>>> silcone
>>>>> >> sealants.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I would not go to Lowes. Go to any
>>>>> dockside
>>>>> >> marine store or if
>>>>> >> >> you have to
>>>>> >> >> the high dollar 'West Marine'.
>>>>> It would
>>>>> >> be better to pay the few
>>>>> >> >> extra
>>>>> >> >> schekels at West to get a quality
>>>>> product.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> As to screws and bolts, Stan uses a
>>>>> million bolts
>>>>> >> at the shop.
>>>>> >> >> Maybe older
>>>>> >> >> boats had a mix, but I would opt to go to
>>>>> thru
>>>>> >> bolts, all one
>>>>> >> >> million of
>>>>> >> >> them. Also, after you tighten all the
>>>>> first
>>>>> >> time, go around a
>>>>> >> >> second time
>>>>> >> >> and maybe a third. A small 1/4"
>>>>> rachet
>>>>> >> works for this job. If
>>>>> >> >> you do not
>>>>> >> >> have one, head for Sears and get a
>>>>> Craftsman set.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> It is good to see your post. Are in in
>>>>> contact
>>>>> >> with any other
>>>>> >> >> 'Tidewater'
>>>>> >> >> Rhodies?
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Ed K
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>> any chance I can ask a question
>>>>> about the
>>>>> >> Rhodes22? LOL...
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> my centerboard would not raise or
>>>>> lower so
>>>>> >> friend and I took the
>>>>> >> >>> cap
>>>>> >> >>> apart; found that the blocks had
>>>>> broken off
>>>>> >> the CB; scraped,
>>>>> >> >>> sanded, and
>>>>> >> >>> painted the inside of the cap, the
>>>>> well and
>>>>> >> the CB (all
>>>>> >> >>> encrusted with
>>>>> >> >>> barnacles). We have it put back
>>>>> together
>>>>> >> except for the cap
>>>>> >> >>> which has the
>>>>> >> >>> gasket which was already there...
>>>>> appears in
>>>>> >> pretty good shape. We
>>>>> >> >>> modified some blocks which was
>>>>> challenging
>>>>> >> since the attachment
>>>>> >> >>> area is so
>>>>> >> >>> small. Also did some fiberglass
>>>>> repair on
>>>>> >> the CB and the keel.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Two questions:
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> - most of the holes had screws but
>>>>> some had
>>>>> >> bolts... I assume
>>>>> >> >>> that an
>>>>> >> >>> earlier owner had stripped out the
>>>>> screw
>>>>> >> holes. Is it likely
>>>>> >> >>> that reusing
>>>>> >> >>> the screws will provide sufficient
>>>>> pressure
>>>>> >> to prevent leaks or
>>>>> >> >>> should we
>>>>> >> >>> go to the trouble of replacing all
>>>>> with
>>>>> >> bolts... I'd prefer not
>>>>> >> >>> because
>>>>> >> >>> there are so many, but I don't
>>>>> want leaks
>>>>> >> obviously.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> - what sealant should we use? I took
>>>>> off the
>>>>> >> old sealant which
>>>>> >> >>> was a blue
>>>>> >> >>> colored rubbery substance that came
>>>>> off pretty
>>>>> >> easily from both
>>>>> >> >>> sides.
>>>>> >> >>> Roger's instructions said to use
>>>>> silicone.
>>>>> >> Is there a
>>>>> >> >>> particular type or
>>>>> >> >>> any old stuff from Lowes? If we use
>>>>> silicon,
>>>>> >> do we need to let
>>>>> >> >>> it cure a
>>>>> >> >>> little before clamping down 100% to
>>>>> give it a
>>>>> >> chance to cure?
>>>>> >> >>> (seems to me
>>>>> >> >>> it requires air to start the curing
>>>>> process).
>>>>> >> Has anyone used
>>>>> >> >>> RTV...
>>>>> >> >>> overkill for this application?
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> I have searched and searched for the
>>>>> tech
>>>>> >> info material that was
>>>>> >> >>> created
>>>>> >> >>> and organized years ago with no
>>>>> luck. Can
>>>>> >> someone give me a URL
>>>>> >> >>> for it or
>>>>> >> >>> does it no longer exist?
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Thanks, Saroj
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> __________________________________________________
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