[Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
Brad Haslett
flybrad at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 11:50:09 EDT 2008
Mike,
Relax, I have to go teach a class this afternoon. One of the subjects
is suck/squeeze/bang/blow, otherwise known as powerplants. It ain't
that difficult folks, you take one part of carbon, mix it with 15
parts of air, add a BIC lighter and BOOM! Off you go into the wild
blue yonder.
Yeah, I'll watch, not that I ever got the opportunity to do so
travelling the world.
Do you ever think about how lonely it must be being a libertarian,
fiscal conservative, socially liberal, pervert?
I didn't think so.
Brad
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Michael D. Weisner
<mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> What, the political discussions aren't interesting enough? I'll bet you
> like to watch, too!
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008
> 10:27 PM
> Hey, I think girls flirting with girls on 'da list' would be great as
> long as I get to listen!
>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:22 PM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Well, Herb, Do you really need an explanation or are you just trying to
>> poke?
>>
>> You're married for how many years & ou haven't figured it out yet?
>>
>> elle
>>
>>
>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>
>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to Elle
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 10:05 PM
>>> OK, here goes a can of worms -
>>>
>>> Why is it OK to make a comment about a man flirting with a
>>> woman (or
>>> even a woman flirting with a man),
>>>
>>> But an "uncalled for remart" about a woman
>>> flirting with a woman?
>>>
>>>
>>> elle wrote:
>>> > Ben,
>>> >
>>> > sorry...I just read your reply to Saroj...I should
>>> have realized that you would not have made an uncalled-for
>>> remark.
>>> >
>>> > elle
>>> >
>>> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>> can adjust our sails.
>>> >
>>> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
>>> (Lady in Red)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, elle
>>> <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change... to
>>> Elle
>>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 9:29 PM
>>> >> NOT funny, Ben.
>>> >> This isn't like you...what gives??
>>> >>
>>> >> elle
>>> >>
>>> >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but
>>> we can
>>> >> adjust our sails.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
>>> "WaterMusic"
>>> >> (Lady in Red)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Ben Cittadino
>>> >> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Ben Cittadino
>>> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic change...
>>> to Elle
>>> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> >>> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 12:43 PM
>>> >>> Hey you guys!!!! No flirting on this forum!!!
>>> What is
>>> >>>
>>> >> this
>>> >>
>>> >>> , Match.com?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ben C.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> hmmm.. sent to watermusic38 at yahoo.com
>>> at
>>> >>>>
>>> >> 11:20
>>> >>
>>> >>> yesterday.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> did you get it yet?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Give me a call when it works out for you
>>> to meet
>>> >>>>
>>> >> for
>>> >>
>>> >>> coffee or lunch.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Saroj
>>> >>>> 757 871-6697
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>> From: "elle"
>>> >>>>
>>> >> <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>> >>
>>> >>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:48 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topic
>>> change... to
>>> >>>>
>>> >> Elle
>>> >>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Saroj.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 11:50pm...nothing yet.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> elle
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> We can't change the angle of the
>>> >>>>>
>>> >> wind....but
>>> >>
>>> >>> we can adjust our sails.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>> "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Saroj Gilbert
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>> <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> From: Saroj Gilbert
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >> <saroj at pathfind.net>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Topic
>>> change...
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >> to
>>> >>
>>> >>> Elle
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email
>>> List"
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008,
>>> 11:21 PM
>>> >>>>>> I sent you an email back
>>> channel... let
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >> me
>>> >>
>>> >>> know if it
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> doesn't get to you.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Saroj
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>> From: "elle"
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email
>>> List"
>>> >>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008
>>> 11:08 PM
>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]
>>> centerboard
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> repair - cap
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> sealant? reply to
>>> >>>>>> Saroj
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Saroj,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> We're neighbors, of
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >> sorts.....I'm
>>> >>
>>> >>> just a bit
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> up the road in the upper
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Northern Neck...I go to
>>> Newport News
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> every two weeks
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> on marina
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> business.......and will go
>>> thru
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >> Hampton
>>> >>
>>> >>> in two weeks
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> on my way to the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Outer Banks for a photo
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >> workshop.....
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> elle
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> We can't change the angle
>>> of the
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> wind....but we
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> can adjust our sails.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> "WaterMusic"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> (Lady in Red)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Saroj
>>> Gilbert
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> From: Saroj Gilbert
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> <saroj at pathfind.net>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [Rhodes22-list]
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> centerboard repair -
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> cap sealant? reply to
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj
>>> >>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22
>>> Email
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> List"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 28,
>>> 2008,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> 2:27
>>> >>
>>> >>> PM
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Hey, Ed, Ben, Rob, Rik,
>>> Rummy,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> Lou,
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks all for the info.
>>> Based
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> on
>>> >>
>>> >>> what I've
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> read,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I'm going to replace
>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>> the screws with bolts.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Lou, are you the one who
>>> did the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> write-up with
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Roger in
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> 2005-2006? When you
>>> >>>>>>>> say "torque" are
>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> implying you
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> actually used a
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> torque wrench or just as a
>>> >>>>>>>> euphemism for
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> "tightened"?
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> My centerboard lift line
>>> has a
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> different
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> configuration from
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> that in the
>>> >>>>>>>> article I referenced
>>> above. It
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> starts from a
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> small U
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> bracket fore of the
>>> >>>>>>>> foremost block on the cap.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> Since the
>>> >>
>>> >>> blocks on
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the CB were
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> broken I don't
>>> >>>>>>>> know how it was threaded
>>> below,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> but
>>> >>
>>> >>> it seems to
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> have gone
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> from that loop
>>> >>>>>>>> thru the highest block on
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> CB,
>>> >>
>>> >>> back up to the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> foremost block on the
>>> >>>>>>>> cap (an inch aft of the
>>> loop),
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> back
>>> >>
>>> >>> down to the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> lower block
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> on the CB (2-3
>>> >>>>>>>> inches below the other
>>> one) then
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> up
>>> >>
>>> >>> thru the aft
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> block on
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the cap which acts
>>> >>>>>>>> as a fair lead, then thru
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> hole
>>> >>
>>> >>> and nipple for
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the lift
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> line. It seems
>>> >>>>>>>> that there should be
>>> another
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> block
>>> >>
>>> >>> lower down on
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the CB to
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> give an extra
>>> >>>>>>>> mechanical advantage and
>>> more
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> pull on
>>> >>
>>> >>> the extreme,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> but I
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> never had any
>>> >>>>>>>> trouble raising or
>>> lowering the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> CB
>>> >>
>>> >>> before the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> break.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I'm still wondering
>>> what
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> sealant/caulk to use.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> The guy
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> at West Marine
>>> >>>>>>>> recommended 3M 4200 but I
>>> think
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> it is
>>> >>
>>> >>> essentially
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> an
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> adhesive like 5200,
>>> >>>>>>>> just not as permanent.
>>> Lou,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> what did
>>> >>
>>> >>> you use?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Seems like
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> an underwater
>>> >>>>>>>> silicone (like Silicone
>>> II)
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> would
>>> >>
>>> >>> work well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> I've
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> never had any trouble
>>> >>>>>>>> with leaking, but I might
>>> as
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> well do
>>> >>
>>> >>> it right
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> while its
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> apart. I would
>>> >>>>>>>> consider changing the
>>> gasket but
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> it
>>> >>
>>> >>> appears to be
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> in very
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> good condition.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I've been renovating a
>>> 1937
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> house
>>> >>
>>> >>> for the past
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> 4 years,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> so Pathfinder has
>>> >>>>>>>> been on the hard in my
>>> back yard
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> during that time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> It
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> wasn't worth paying
>>> >>>>>>>> the slip fees when I
>>> didn't
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> have
>>> >>
>>> >>> time to use
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> it.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> We're replacing the
>>> mast
>>> >>>>>>>> lights... the anchor light
>>> lens
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> was
>>> >>
>>> >>> cloudy and I
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> lost the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> steaming/deck
>>> >>>>>>>> light when a branch fell
>>> on it.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> I'm replacing
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> anchor light with an
>>> >>>>>>>> incandescent, but the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> steaming/deck
>>> >>
>>> >>> light with
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> LED. Figure
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> that will help
>>> >>>>>>>> the battery charging life,
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> will
>>> >>
>>> >>> be installing
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> a solar
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> panel for trickle
>>> >>>>>>>> charge.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> All of the brightwork
>>> needs
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> sanding
>>> >>
>>> >>> &
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> varnishing and
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> have to clean up some
>>> >>>>>>>> sap on the deck. Washed
>>> all the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> lines and the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> sails and
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> she is just about
>>> >>>>>>>> back to sailing condition.
>>> She
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> still
>>> >>
>>> >>> looks great
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> even at
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> her advanced age
>>> >>>>>>>> of 24 years!
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I'll continue on with
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> cosmetic work
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> (screens,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> varnish, polishingetc.)
>>> >>>>>>>> over the next year; but
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> we're
>>> >>
>>> >>> hoping to get a
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> few sails
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> in before winter
>>> >>>>>>>> "really" gets
>>> here,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> although the way
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> things are
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> going that may be
>>> >>>>>>>> optimisitc. Monday
>>> afternoon it
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> was
>>> >>
>>> >>> delightful
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> sailing
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> weather. Today it
>>> >>>>>>>> is windy and cold...
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> unseasonably for
>>> >>
>>> >>> this region.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Ed, I met a fellow from
>>> Richmond
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> a
>>> >>
>>> >>> few years ago
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> (Rob, was
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> that you?), but I
>>> >>>>>>>> haven't run into any
>>> Rhodes
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> owners in the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Tidewater
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> region. I'm living in
>>> >>>>>>>> Hampton now.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks all for your well
>>> wishes
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> and
>>> >>
>>> >>> the great
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> information
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> to help us get
>>> >>>>>>>> this project completed.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
>>> -----
>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Lou
>>> Rosenberg"
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22
>>> Email
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> List"
>>> >>>
>>> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28,
>>> 2008
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> 12:32
>>> >>
>>> >>> PM
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [Rhodes22-list]
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> centerboard repair -
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> cap
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> sealant? reply to
>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Rik
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I use 10x24 ss bolts on my
>>> cap.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> I
>>> >>
>>> >>> prefer to
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> tighten the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> nut under
>>> >>>>>>>> the cap using a closed end
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> wrench
>>> >>
>>> >>> with
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> my electric driver and
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> correct
>>> >>
>>> >>> wide phillips
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> bit in
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> place. Do a
>>> >>>>>>>> criss cross pattern like
>>> lacing
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> up
>>> >>
>>> >>> boots
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> and torque the nut with a
>>> rachet
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> wrench with the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> phillips
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> bit and
>>> >>>>>>>> just hold the nut in place
>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> the
>>> >>
>>> >>> same closed
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> end wrench
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> (7/16")
>>> >>>>>>>> took me about 1hr to do 46
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> bolts.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> Ive overhauled my entire
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> centerboard
>>> >>
>>> >>> cap, trunk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> and board
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> including
>>> >>>>>>>> the mechanical advantage
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Lou
>>> >>>>>>>> sv Miracles
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:43
>>> AM,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Rik,
>>> >>>>>>>>> It takes really small
>>> hands
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> and
>>> >>
>>> >>> a second
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> person. I
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> recommend using an
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> electric driver or you
>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> be
>>> >>
>>> >>> spending the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> better
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> part of a day
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> installing all of
>>> >>>>>>>>> them. I have never
>>> seen
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> screws
>>> >>
>>> >>> used on the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> trunk cap.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Rummy
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> In a message dated
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> 10/28/2008
>>> >>
>>> >>> 11:21:39 A.M.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Eastern
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Daylight Time,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> sanderico1 at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Ed,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I have to ask, how
>>> would
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> you use
>>> >>
>>> >>> through
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> bolts on the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> centerboard
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> cap of
>>> >>>>>>>>> an R22?? I can't
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> imagine how
>>> >>
>>> >>> you are
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> going to hold
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the nuts to
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> tighten them.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Rik
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Will Rogers often
>>> said,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> "There's
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> nothing
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> quite like money in the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> bank." He
>>> >>>>>>>>> went on to say,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> "I'm
>>> >>
>>> >>> not so
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> concerned about
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the return on my money
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> as I am
>>> >>>>>>>>> about the return of my
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> money."
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Tootle wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> As to sealants,
>>> do not
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> use
>>> >>
>>> >>> 5200 like
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> some boat
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> builders. It is
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> called
>>> >>>>>>>>>> sealant but it is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> permanent
>>> >>
>>> >>> and prevents
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> future
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> repair,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> painting, etc.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I recommend a
>>> sealant
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> that
>>> >>
>>> >>> says for under
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> water
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> use. 3M 4000 or
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4200 are
>>> >>>>>>>>>> numbers I can
>>> think of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> quickly. Go to
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> the 3M
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> website and see
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> which one is
>>> >>>>>>>>>> for underwater
>>> use. (I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> know the cap is
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> underwater, except at
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> times)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another popular
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> product is
>>> >>
>>> >>> Boat Life
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Sealant, not
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Boat Life Caulk.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> As to silicone
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> products,
>>> >>
>>> >>> make sure it
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> says for
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> underwater use.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Silicone
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> II
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> is said to be the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> better
>>> >>
>>> >>> formulation of
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> silcone
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> sealants.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would not go to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> Lowes. Go
>>> >>
>>> >>> to any
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> dockside
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> marine store or if
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> you have to
>>> >>>>>>>>>> the high dollar
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> 'West
>>> >>
>>> >>> Marine'.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> It would
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> be better to pay the few
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> extra
>>> >>>>>>>>>> schekels at West
>>> to get
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> a
>>> >>
>>> >>> quality
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> product.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> As to screws and
>>> bolts,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> Stan
>>> >>
>>> >>> uses a
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> million bolts
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> at the shop.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe older
>>> >>>>>>>>>> boats had a mix,
>>> but I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> would
>>> >>
>>> >>> opt to go to
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> thru
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> bolts, all one
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> million of
>>> >>>>>>>>>> them. Also, after
>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> tighten all the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> first
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> time, go around a
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> second time
>>> >>>>>>>>>> and maybe a third.
>>> A
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> small
>>> >>
>>> >>> 1/4"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> rachet
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> works for this job. If
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> you do not
>>> >>>>>>>>>> have one, head
>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> Sears
>>> >>
>>> >>> and get a
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Craftsman set.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is good to see
>>> your
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> post. Are in in
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> contact
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> with any other
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> 'Tidewater'
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rhodies?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ed K
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Gilbert
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> any chance I
>>> can
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> ask a
>>> >>
>>> >>> question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> about the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Rhodes22? LOL...
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my centerboard
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> would
>>> >>
>>> >>> not raise or
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> lower so
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> friend and I took the
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cap
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> apart; found
>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> the
>>> >>
>>> >>> blocks had
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> broken off
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the CB; scraped,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sanded, and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> painted the
>>> inside
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> of
>>> >>
>>> >>> the cap, the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> well and
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the CB (all
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> encrusted
>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> barnacles).
>>> We
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> have it
>>> >>
>>> >>> put back
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> together
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> except for the cap
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> which has the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> gasket which
>>> was
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> already
>>> >>
>>> >>> there...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> appears in
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> pretty good shape. We
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> modified some
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> blocks
>>> >>
>>> >>> which was
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> challenging
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> since the attachment
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> area is so
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> small. Also
>>> did
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> some
>>> >>
>>> >>> fiberglass
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> repair on
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> the CB and the keel.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Two
>>> questions:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - most of the
>>> holes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> had
>>> >>
>>> >>> screws but
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> some had
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> bolts... I assume
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that an
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> earlier owner
>>> had
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> stripped out the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> screw
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> holes. Is it likely
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that reusing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the screws
>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> provide
>>> >>
>>> >>> sufficient
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> pressure
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> to prevent leaks or
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> should we
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> go to the
>>> trouble
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> of
>>> >>
>>> >>> replacing all
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> with
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> bolts... I'd prefer
>>> not
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> because
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> there are so
>>> many,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> but
>>> >>
>>> >>> I don't
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> want leaks
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> obviously.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - what
>>> sealant
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> should
>>> >>
>>> >>> we use? I took
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> off the
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> old sealant which
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was a blue
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> colored
>>> rubbery
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> substance that came
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> off pretty
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> easily from both
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sides.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Roger's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> instructions
>>> >>
>>> >>> said to use
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> silicone.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Is there a
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>> type or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> any old stuff
>>> from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> Lowes? If we use
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> silicon,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> do we need to let
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it cure a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> little before
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> clamping
>>> >>
>>> >>> down 100% to
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> give it a
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> chance to cure?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (seems to me
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it requires
>>> air to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> start the curing
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> process).
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone used
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RTV...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> overkill for
>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> application?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>> searched and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> searched for the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> tech
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> info material that was
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> created
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and organized
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >> years ago
>>> >>
>>> >>> with no
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>>> >>>>>> luck. Can
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> someone give me a URL
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> for it or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> does it no
>>> longer
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> >>> exist?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj
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