[Rhodes22-list] Political Re ply to Captain Ed

Mon Sep 1 17:48:24 EDT 2008

Nice summation Brad, Just don't agree on the Rosey tinted glasses view.  But
you are right on about dumping communisim for a more free market.  Just
curious I understand that the Army is making a go at factories and
production of non military stuff.  How "free" are they to compete and and is
it a level playing field.  Inquiring minds are curious.

Chris G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Political Re ply to Captain Ed

> Chris,
>
> The economy - suffering from the real estate and mortgage silliness
> but not a recession yet, exports saving the decline in GDP for now.
>
> War - Iraq winding down - the Iraqi's want us out (and we want out).
> NATO petering out in Afghanistan (NATO petering out in Georgia), UN
> non-existent, tough terrain, tough people, nuclear Pakistan.  Tough
> situation 7 years later.  Radical Muslims still looking for a way to
> kill us.  The war goes on.
>
> Taxes -  Tax revenue is up because of a cut in the capital gains tax
> and increased investment in the economy.
>
> Between what rich and what poor are we talking about.  The World?  The
> poor are gaining - did you watch the Olympics?  US economy?  We may be
> the only nation on the planet where the poor owns a color TV,
> air-conditioning, and two cars.  And, they are fat.
>
> And how would you like to focus on these issues, especially the
> economic ones?  Trot out a few more failed economic theories or follow
> China's path - ditch the Marxist bullshit and try a little old
> fashioned capitalism?
>
> Brad
>
> On 8/31/08, Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
> > Thanks Tootle,
> >                     We both agree that there are a lot of people who
have
> >  made mistakes and have gone on to lead better lives, so lets focus on
the
> >  actual issues, the economy, the war, taxes, the growing gap between
rich and
> >  poor.  These are where we need to focus.
> >
> >  Chris G
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >  To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:18 PM
> >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re ply to Captain Chris G.
> >
> >
> >  >
> >  > Chris G said, "Boy I gotta agree, any of those cheating husbands and
> >  > philanderers should be barred from making speeches at the convention.
Of
> >  > course that would include John McCain after what he did to his wife
and
> >  two
> >  > kids after he came back. Got a new undamaged model with lots of
money,
> >  > prenup or not.  Does it matter?  Careful there are lots of glass
houses.
> >  > Should we bar those who have killed a person in a car accident that
they
> >  > caused?  Ok that keeps out Ted Kennedy, but also Laura Bush.  Should
we
> >  bar
> >  > someone who stole drugs (in one case from a non-profit set up to help
war
> >  > victims), and forged
> >  > prescriptions well I guess that would shut up Mrs. McCain and Rush
> >  Limbaugh.
> >  > Tootle, help me out, to be fair and balanced I need a drug thieving
> >  democrat
> >  > to balance this out. Oh I know Marion Berry should do."
> >  >
> >  > Responses as follows:
> >  >
> >  > As to John McCain - after how many years in a North Viet Nam
prison? - He
> >  > had adjustment problems when he came back.  How much time did you
spend in
> >  > the Hanoi Hilton?  He later realized he screwed up and admits it.
Too
> >  late,
> >  > but after some time he came around and has since lead a better life,
other
> >  > wise he would not be where he is.
> >  >
> >  > As to Ted Kennedy, I have always believed that he was drunk.
However, the
> >  > lady was in the back seat was in the same state.  Alcohol consumption
is
> >  not
> >  > a legal excuse for killing another or is it Ben C?
> >  >
> >  > As to Laura Bush at 17, poor driving skills kill many teenagers.  Is
that
> >  > not the reason that age group has the highest insurance rates?  Are
you
> >  > telling us that your judgment and driving skills have not changed
since
> >  you
> >  > were 17?
> >  >
> >  > As to drug addition and subsequently forging prescriptions, the
medication
> >  > that Rush became addicted to was a problem that the drug company did
not
> >  > correctly monitor and once the problem was known, physicians failed
to
> >  > follow up for addition.  Initially the drug was proscribed correctly,
but
> >  > the prescribing doctor did not follow up making sure that no addition
> >  > occurred.
> >  >
> >  > Once you are addicted, you the person is no longer in control.  Have
you
> >  > never dealt with alcoholics?  If not, never ever again, give a
recovered
> >  > alcoholic 100% trust.
> >  >
> >  > There is a big problem in America with prescription drugs.  Often
doctors
> >  > are getting kickbacks from the drug companies and so are more willing
to
> >  > prescribe feel good drugs when they should not.  Yes this is partly
the
> >  > patients fault for asking for such drugs, but again, once there is
> >  addition.
> >  >
> >  > The points that you raised are fair to raise and be addressed but
they are
> >  > distinguishable from a lawyer, who as part of bar qualifying has
specific
> >  > ethics training from committing perjury.   I have said that his
> >  philandering
> >  > is one thing, but his committing perjury is a whole different matter.
And
> >  > as Ben C said he was suspended for five years for doing it.  The
Arkansas
> >  > Bar said even a former President needed his ____ slapped for doing
it.
> >  >
> >  > So I have partially addressed your comments.
> >  >
> >  > Ed K
> >  > Greenville, SC, USA
> >  > attachment:
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