[Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama; Calm Yourself Tootle (politics)

[Steven Alm]

Herb,

If you want to see a 'no substance' speech, recall McCain's on Thur night at
the RNC.

Ben's post was full of substance and no exaggeration.

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> Sorry Slim, I disagree. It was hyperbole. Phrases with no substance.
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
> > "it's
> > just more political hyperbole."
> >
> > No it's not, Herb, it's ideology.
> >
> > "Remember, when you do those things, they say a lot about who you are."
> >
> > Damn right!
> >
> > Slim
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And Ben, you, by the same token, can throw terms like "really dangerous
> >> bad guys", "waste our resources", "cowboyd diplomacy", "abuses of our
> >> ... constitution", "reproductive choices" (you folks just HATE calling
> >> it "killing embryos, don't you?), etc etc. around. When you do so, it's
> >> just more political hyperbole.
> >>
> >> it's
> >> just more political hyperbole.
> >>
> >> And, no recommendations on beverages, just a suggestion for a little
> >> self-reflection and a dropping of stones.
> >>
> >> Ben Cittadino wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Tootle & Other Colleagues;
> >>>
> >>> I suggest there are explanations for those of us who intend (if the
> Good
> >>>
> >> Lord is willing and the creek don't rise) to vote for Senator Obama
> other
> >> than those put forward in your latest screed. I prefer to focus on
> policy
> >> issues as they relate to both candidates, rather than the hysterical
> >> rantings of fearful conspiracy theorists.  People who support Obama tend
> to
> >> want us out of Iraq sooner rather than later, want us to focus on the
> really
> >> dangerous bad guys in Afghanistan rather than waste our resources
> chasing
> >> folks who don't matter in the wrong place.  We tend to be the people who
> >> believe collaborative efforts overseas are more likely to be in our long
> >> term best interests more than cowboy diplomacy.  We tend to think Sen
> Obama
> >> may be more likely to be accepted as an honest broker between the
> Israeli
> >> Government and the Palestinians to bring about the two-state solution
> all
> >> reasonable people want in that theater.  We believe Obama is more likely
> to
> >> appoint Federal Judges w!
> >>  ho!
> >>
> >>>   understand that they are the last best defense between the potential
> >>>
> >> abuses of our wonderful Constitutional Rights by an out-of-control
> Executive
> >> branch, and who will guard "The Great Writ"(habeas corpus), the single
> most
> >> powerful human rights tool since the creation of the planet, against the
> >> Dick Cheney wannabes.  We believe Obama is more likely to support
> federal
> >> policies encouraging embryonic stem cell research, climate change
> research,
> >> alternative fuels, support of the public schools, teaching of Darwinian
> >> natural selection (evolution) as opposed to Biblical Creation Science
> (?).
> >>  We don't view gays who want to make the same commitments to each other
> as
> >> heterosexuals as a threat, and we're happy to have them serve their
> country
> >> in the military, and we think Obama is more likely to adopt policies
> toward
> >> those ends. We think the reproductive choices made by women are none of
> our
> >> or the government's business and we have good reason to believe Obama is
> >> more likely to fe!
> >>  el!
> >>
> >>>   the same way and act accordingly.
> >>> Tootle, you can throw words like marxism and sheep around all you want.
> >>>
> >>  Just remember if you do it it says alot more about you than it does
> about
> >> us.
> >>
> >>> One friendly suggestion.  Maybe you should switch to decaf .
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>> Ben C., s/v Susan Kay, Hughlands, NJ
> >>>
> >>> "Steer toward the iceberg, and speed up!"- George W. Bush
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