[Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts

Tue Sep 9 09:19:41 EDT 2008

Mike

Full main in the wind?
How much headsail?

Lou
s/v Miracles
On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:

> I went out the other day in 10-15kts (gusts to 20) with my nephew  
> (7yrs) who
> was white knuckled as he said "Can we go faster?"  He was holding  
> on to the
> winch for dear life thinking that he had found a secure handhold.   
> Imagine
> his horror when I needed THAT winch as we changed tack!  I was  
> finally able
> to transfer his grip to the hand rail at the front of the cockpit  
> so that I
> could secure the genny to the winch.  I had never realized how  
> dangerous it
> can be to have small hands firmly attached to a winch during a tack.
>
> My advice: Caution all "non-sailing crew" that the winch is strictly
> off-limits as a hand hold since it might be needed in a hurry and  
> show them
> the forward hand grips.
>
> Of course, I neglected to inform my nephew that he would now be firmly
> affixed to the "low" side after I sheeted in and resumed hull  
> speed.  At his
> size, I did not think to reposition him as his contribution to the  
> boat's
> ballast quotient was nil.  I had to retrieve him personally (his  
> safety line
> was always tied to me) and he now won't sit anywhere except fully  
> hiked out
> in the stern with me holding on to the backstay getting wet from  
> the spray.
> He loves to sail fast.  I'm training him so that in my later years  
> he can
> sail and I can sit back and watch.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>        Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September  
> 09, 2008
> 12:56 AM
>> I love Mary Lou's description of her dangling from the winch  
>> because she's
>> so short.  I can just see that.  My wife too.  8-)   I'm lucky  
>> that Mary
>> Ann
>> is completely fearless on the water and that dunking the rails and  
>> even
>> shipping water is not a problem for her.  We try to keep the boat  
>> flat but
>> when it happens to go radical, she's not afraid.  And the boat's  
>> fine.
>> Always.  She just says to me, "Slimmy, we're over-powered.  Let's  
>> reef
>> in."
>>
>>
>> Yes, ma'am.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yup, after tapping the hole for a 10/24 machine screw.  You can  
>>> get that
>>> stuff at Lowes.  Hardest part is drilling into the VERY thick  
>>> traveler
>>> bar.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of MichaelT
>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:07 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> We're those Harken 2714 ends just screwed on to the original  
>>> traveler
>>> bar?
>>> Can you describe how it was installed?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Thorn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> MichaelT,
>>>>
>>>> Look at the attached picture.  I modified my R22 traveler at the
>>>> suggestion
>>>> of Roger P, former list member and all-around good sailor.   You  
>>>> can
>>>> find
>>>> his writings in the archives. The fitting is a Harken #2741 end
>>>> control,
>>>> sold in pairs.
>>>>
>>>> When a gust hits I just immediately head up a little, hike out  
>>>> harder
>>>> and
>>>> release the traveler control to allow the main to luff a bit  
>>>> without
>>>> releasing the mainsheet.  When the gust passes, just bear off  
>>>> slightly
>>> and
>>>> pull the traveler back to its original position.
>>>>
>>>> This works for all but the biggest gusts, which can create a  
>>>> velocity
>>>> shift
>>>> by moving the apparent wind too far.
>>>>
>>>> PT
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of MichaelT
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:30 AM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We experienced approx 4-5 gusts of wind in our 3 hour sail  
>>>> yesterday. I
>>>> was
>>>> just imagining if our wives we're onboard how frantic they would  
>>>> have
>>>> been.
>>>>
>>>> In those instances, the weather helm gave way to a heavy tiller  
>>>> with
>>>> the
>>>> tiller positioned at 45 degree to windward to remain on-course.  
>>>> I was
>>>> considering letting the main sheet out but the gusts all happen in
>>>> about
>>>> 10-20 seconds and then disappears.
>>>>
>>>> How do you guys handle gusts of wind?
>>>>
>>>> Especially when the gusts causes heavy heeling (gunnel 6" from  
>>>> water)
>>>>
>>>> Michael
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