[Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts

Tue Sep 9 10:43:34 EDT 2008

Lou,

We were fully rigged most of the time, although, I must confess, that I did 
eventually reduce the 150% Genoa to just forward of the spreaders.  I did 
this not so much to reduce speed or heeling but rather to resheet inside to 
head higher into the wind on the return leg.  We had started out with very 
strong NW wind on a reach and by the time we returned, we were close hauled 
and losing windspeed as the daylight waned.  Once we were close to the 
river, we dropped all sails and motored in, not wanting to become food for 
the no-see-ums.

As an aside, I was unable to drop my centerboard the last two times we went 
out, causing a lot of side slippage when on a broad reach. On labor day, 
when the wind died, we anchored off Short Beach (Smithtown, NY) to go 
swimming and I went under and looked at the bottom.  I found a few barnacles 
that were easily knocked off and tons of very small muscles in large groups 
of seaweed stuck to the hull.  I do not remember seeing this kind of growth 
before (in 28 years!)  The muscles look almost like a "hand" of grapes.  Has 
anyone else in the NE (LIS) seen this?

I knocked off much of the sea life with the scraper side of the 
mop/broom/brush.  We have since been able to cruise at normal speeds, 
although I was unable to free the board.  Must be something stuck in the 
centerboard trunk or a problem with the line or blocks.  If I can't free it 
in the water, I will be servicing the CB this winter while on the hard (I 
think we're due for a major service anyway, replacing line and blocks.)

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Lou Rosenberg" <lsr3 at nyu.edu>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:19 
AM
> Mike
>
> Full main in the wind?
> How much headsail?
>
> Lou
> s/v Miracles
> On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>
>> I went out the other day in 10-15kts (gusts to 20) with my nephew
>> (7yrs) who
>> was white knuckled as he said "Can we go faster?"  He was holding
>> on to the
>> winch for dear life thinking that he had found a secure handhold.
>> Imagine
>> his horror when I needed THAT winch as we changed tack!  I was
>> finally able
>> to transfer his grip to the hand rail at the front of the cockpit
>> so that I
>> could secure the genny to the winch.  I had never realized how
>> dangerous it
>> can be to have small hands firmly attached to a winch during a tack.
>>
>> My advice: Caution all "non-sailing crew" that the winch is strictly
>> off-limits as a hand hold since it might be needed in a hurry and
>> show them
>> the forward hand grips.
>>
>> Of course, I neglected to inform my nephew that he would now be firmly
>> affixed to the "low" side after I sheeted in and resumed hull
>> speed.  At his
>> size, I did not think to reposition him as his contribution to the
>> boat's
>> ballast quotient was nil.  I had to retrieve him personally (his
>> safety line
>> was always tied to me) and he now won't sit anywhere except fully
>> hiked out
>> in the stern with me holding on to the backstay getting wet from
>> the spray.
>> He loves to sail fast.  I'm training him so that in my later years
>> he can
>> sail and I can sit back and watch.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>>        Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September
>> 09, 2008
>> 12:56 AM
>>> I love Mary Lou's description of her dangling from the winch
>>> because she's
>>> so short.  I can just see that.  My wife too.  8-)   I'm lucky
>>> that Mary
>>> Ann
>>> is completely fearless on the water and that dunking the rails and
>>> even
>>> shipping water is not a problem for her.  We try to keep the boat
>>> flat but
>>> when it happens to go radical, she's not afraid.  And the boat's
>>> fine.
>>> Always.  She just says to me, "Slimmy, we're over-powered.  Let's
>>> reef
>>> in."
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, ma'am.
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, after tapping the hole for a 10/24 machine screw.  You can
>>>> get that
>>>> stuff at Lowes.  Hardest part is drilling into the VERY thick
>>>> traveler
>>>> bar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of MichaelT
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:07 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> We're those Harken 2714 ends just screwed on to the original
>>>> traveler
>>>> bar?
>>>> Can you describe how it was installed?
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter Thorn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MichaelT,
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the attached picture.  I modified my R22 traveler at the
>>>>> suggestion
>>>>> of Roger P, former list member and all-around good sailor.   You
>>>>> can
>>>>> find
>>>>> his writings in the archives. The fitting is a Harken #2741 end
>>>>> control,
>>>>> sold in pairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> When a gust hits I just immediately head up a little, hike out
>>>>> harder
>>>>> and
>>>>> release the traveler control to allow the main to luff a bit
>>>>> without
>>>>> releasing the mainsheet.  When the gust passes, just bear off
>>>>> slightly
>>>> and
>>>>> pull the traveler back to its original position.
>>>>>
>>>>> This works for all but the biggest gusts, which can create a
>>>>> velocity
>>>>> shift
>>>>> by moving the apparent wind too far.
>>>>>
>>>>> PT
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of MichaelT
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:30 AM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We experienced approx 4-5 gusts of wind in our 3 hour sail
>>>>> yesterday. I
>>>>> was
>>>>> just imagining if our wives we're onboard how frantic they would
>>>>> have
>>>>> been.
>>>>>
>>>>> In those instances, the weather helm gave way to a heavy tiller
>>>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>> tiller positioned at 45 degree to windward to remain on-course.
>>>>> I was
>>>>> considering letting the main sheet out but the gusts all happen in
>>>>> about
>>>>> 10-20 seconds and then disappears.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you guys handle gusts of wind?
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially when the gusts causes heavy heeling (gunnel 6" from
>>>>> water)
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
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