[Rhodes22-list] Rik S., a question of when life begins and Ben C.'s comment thereon

[Tootle]

RiK,

When Roe v Wade was decided there was not accurate information available to
answer the question with any certainty.

However, science and medical tools have advanced.  Just look at Ultrasound
pictures and ecocardiograms available today.  

Today nobody is willing to look at current medical information and say the
old time frame is not true, not accurate in light of modern information.

I originally thought that your's and Ben's arguement were acceptable.  Ben
said, "It's a judgment call. It seems reasonable enough to me."

Having worked in medical imaging, I can say with certainty that the old time
line is wrong.  It may be the law, but the law is wrong because we now have
pictures and other data to say it is wrong.  It is not a religious thing,
but now a factual thing.  

Where is Alice on this subject.  Still trying to start her Yamaha?

Your opinion just walks away from killing.  When you are in a nursing home
and too feeble to stop them, will it be just as acceptable for them to put a
blanket over your head and do a Dr. Kevorkian?

Anyway, I have had to change my opinion because the facts and scientific
information are now available.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA



Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Rik,
> 
> I'm with you.  I only get to play God a few times a month when I'm
> giving a checkride and even then there's "higher powers" that will
> question my decisions.  Here's a couple of neat videos of real people.
> 
> http://kdka.com/local/Palin.Down.Syndrome.2.809737.html
> 
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/17384228/index.html
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> Not sure why you'd be asking me this question. I have already stated
>> that I am not in favor of abortion, but I do mind my own business. Also,
>> I am surely no expert on either the medical or scientific aspects of
>> pregnancy/child bearing so this question, as others have said, is
>> probably above my pay grade.
>>
>> I wouldn't like to see people performing the scenario, partial birth
>> abortion I believe it is called, that Todd was talking about. I'm pretty
>> sure that a fetus is truly a person by then.
>>
>> One thing I do know is, nobody is going to have to answer for my sins
>> but me. As such, since I am not without sin, I have no business casting
>> stones.
>>
>> Rik
>>
>>
>> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
>>
>>
>>
>> Tootle wrote:
>>> Rik,
>>>
>>> Using modern science and modern medical and scientific tools, when
>>> exactly
>>> does life begin?  Disregard court opinions, which are just opinions.
>>>
>>> Ed K
>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>> addendum, 'Making right choices in gray areas is difficult.  To be aware
>>> of
>>> the dilemma is not enough.   There needs to be a moral sensitivity which
>>> remembers to ask the right questions at the right time.  To know what is
>>> good is not enough?  There is a difference between waking up and getting
>>> up.
>>> There must be specific decision for the right.  To be sensitive and
>>> aware is
>>> good.  To make proper decisions is better.'  Paraphrase of Bryan
>>> Crenshaw
>>>
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