[Rhodes22-list] Pointing Problem

[KUHN, LELAND]

Paul,
 
Don't know if this helps but on Saturday I went out single-handed with the winds very consistent at about 10 to 10.5 knots.
 
Board down, traveler centered, full main, poptop up, sheets between inner and outer shrouds across the deck, Genoa furled just past the outer shroud to about 115%.  Tiller locked in the center.  Heel between 10 and 15 degrees.  Body weight mostly on windward seat.  Chop was only a little more than a foot.  Speed was consistent at just above 4 knots.  Tacked and after recovery there was a 90 degree difference on the compass, which would be exactly 45 degrees into the wind.  By that calculation I could have been doing 40 degrees on one tack and 50 degrees on the other but it's doubtful.  Heel was slightly more on the starboard tack due to the weight of the motor.
 
I was a little surprised that the boat would do that well with the poptop up, boom up, and without the sheets being ran across the poptop between the mast and inner shroud.  I still believe that in the right conditions the boat will do better than 40 degrees, although I don't know how much speed would be lost.
 
Decided to complete the triangle and sail back to the marina entrance on a run with the wind and waves directly behind me.  Furled in the Genoa and released the boom so it was just touching the shrouds.  The loose-footed main was still pulled flat tight and the inner shroud protruded into the sail.  Not exactly optimal sail shape for the point-of-sail.  Pulled up the centerboard.  Speed was about 5 knots, but I think the waves helped a lot.  Sailing with just the main is certainly an easy means of sailing with the wind.  Tiller again was locked to the center and my weight was balanced in the center of the boat.
 
Had time to do another triangle so I tried it with the exact same conditions but with the centerboard up.  Compass reading difference was 98 degrees and speed picked up about 0.3 knots.  Heeled increased but less than 5 degrees.
 
On a scale of 1 to 10, I hate to rate anthing a 10, so I'll give the sailing conditions on Saturday a 9.9.
 
Lee
 
 
 

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From: Alan Robertson [mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com]
Sent: Sun 9/21/2008 10:11 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pointing Problem



I realize that you sail a lot single handed; we don't. The only time we can point up closer is to run the jib sheets inside of the outmost shrouds, sit any "friendly" guests over 150 lbs. on the windward side with life preservers buckled and get THOR IV over on a nice 12-15 degree heel. Anything more or any weight on the leeward side means a mop-up job if the non-sailors have just had lunch!
Bigal_61 at msn.com

----- Original Message -----
  From: Paul Krawitz<mailto:krawitzmail-rhodes22 at yahoo.com>
  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:13 AM
  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pointing Problem


  I love the way my Rhodes 22 handles in all points of sail except when it is
  close hauled.
  In my narrow harbor, being able to point close to the wind is the difference
  between returning home in 30 minutes versus 3 hours.

  Now I'm not asking to be able to be 30 degrees off the wind like those two
  guys racing around in a catamaran with no seating and two angled standing
  platforms, and like members of the Joffrey Ballet, gracefully leaping from
  one side to the other, making smooth and instantaneous tacks and traveling
  at 15 knots (no exaggeration).
  (P.S. What is that thing?)

  But it would be nice to make 90 degree rather than 110 or 120 degree tacks.

  Stan put in two internal lead systems on the new Rhodes, in which the jib
  sheets travel either inside one or two of the shrouds. But the sail area is
  so much smaller with the new system that making headway is difficult.

  Furling the genoa jib 50% with the sheets on their normal path outside the
  shrouds seems to be the best compromise, but I'm still 50-60 degrees off the
  wind.

  I tried tightening the backstays to stiffen up the jib luff. The jib looks
  cleaner, but I'm still too far off the wind.

  And yes, the centerboard is down.

  What works for you?

  Paul K
  "Clarity"
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