[Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler

Wed Sep 24 15:23:25 EDT 2008

Bob,

I got my black aluminum "racing style" clamcleats from APS, before I bought
the fancy Harkens.   If you want them, I'll sell you them for half of
today's price plus shipping.  But, you might want to check out the Harken
2741s.  They work so much better!

PT

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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Weber
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler

Mary Lou or any one, I would use my traveller more if I had better cleats.
I have pretty worn "jam" cleats and they tend to slip.  If anyone has found
cam cleates that will fit on the trallever bar, let me know where you got
them.  Thanks Bob Weber> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:56:08 -0400> To:
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net> Subject: Re:
[Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler> > Assumptions,
assumptions! How do you know that most Rhodies do not > use their traveller?
In the interest of clarity - I don't know > whether they do or not. You
could be right.> > We do use our traveller. We like fiddling with the
controls and > seeing what we can do to improve performance. The traveller
is a > great tool and I would encourage everyone to unwrap those lines and >
try it out. There's nothing particularly mysterious about it. It just >
increases or decreases the twist in the sail. It is easier to use > with a
continuous line but you don't have to replace the existing > lines - just
tie the two loose ends of the existing line together so > that it is one
continuous line.> > Mary Lou> 1991 R22 Fretless> Rock Hall, MD> > > At 02:19
PM 9/24/2008, you wrote:> > >Andrew:> >> >Most Rhodies hardly use their
traveler. Peter Thorn recently posted> >modification to his R22's Traveler.
His modification is in part based on> >his use of a traveller for racing. If
you do not race, do not worry about> >not using it. Just ask Captain Rummy.>
>> >Years ago a Rhodie from Tennessee, aka, Wally Buck, devised a simple way
to> >make the traveler easier to use. Instead of two separate lines as boat>
>comes from Stan, Wally replaced both with a single line. I made this>
>modification and found that I would occassionally now use the traveler.
The> >single line modification works if you must use the traveler.> >> >Ed
K> >Greenville, SC, USA> >att
http://www.nabble.com/file/p19654894/encounters.jpg encounters.jpg>
>achment:> >> >> >Andrew Collins-2 wrote:> > >> > > Ben> > >> > > I too
object to not knowing how to use the traveler, hence it lies fallow.> > >
Maybe another sailing course will help me unravel its mysteries and reap> >
> the> > > rewards in knots.> > >> > > After what seemed like two months of
the doldrums, I got in a couple of> > > hours of hull speed sailing on
Monday, with 4' swells on LIS, no less. The> > > steady east wind created
unusual conditions.> > >> > > Anybody else getting out?> > >> > > Andrew> >
> sv Carmen> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Robert Skinner> > >
<Robert at squirrelhaven.com>wrote:> > >> > >> Ben,> > >>> > >> Perhaps it is
best to allow Ed the use of his native tongue.> > >> That makes it easier to
filter, and for those who choose to> > >> scan his rants, it helps them
assess the credibility of the> > >> message.> > >>> > >> The quality,
inventiveness, and quantity of name-calling is> > >> an amusing study for
those who have already figured out what> > >> is going on. For the rest,
spinning bull crap is no> > >> substitute for real knowledge, and there is
so little of> > >> that available that the contest has degenerated into a> >
>> beauty contest on both sides.> > >>> > >> Nobody is about changing minds
here. It is all wishful> > >> thinking, roaring, knuckle dragging, and chest
pounding.> > >>> > >> /Robert> > >>> > >> Ben Cittadino wrote:> > >> > Dear
Ed;> > >> >> > >> > First, you date yourself when you use the term "fellow
traveler".> > >> Nobody> > >> > has used that expression since 1953 or so.
It was one of Joseph> > >> McCarthy's> > >> > favorite epithets. Back then
it was cause to bring a libel suit. Now,> > >> as> > >> > then it's a taunt
of fearful men who think everyone who disagrees with> > >> them> > >> > is a
commie. I take exception to your use of the term "fellow> > >> traveler"> >
>> to> > >> > describe me or anyone else on this list. I want you to cut it
out. Got> > >> it?> > >> >> > >> > The term "Rockefeller Republican"
describes those members of the> > >> Republican> > >> > Party who considered
themselves socially liberal, fiscally> > >> conservative,> > >> and> > >> >
strong on defense. It was used in the '60's to differentiate moderate> > >>
> Republicans from those supporting Barry Goldwater. Olympia Snow of> > >>
Maine> > >> is> > >> > still considered an example of that school of
thought.> > >> >> > >> > Cheers!> > >> >> > >> > Ben C.> > >> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> > Tootle wrote:> > >> >> Ben:> > >> >>> > >> >> Henry Paulson
said the other day he was a "Rockefeller Republican".> > >> >>> > >> >>
Since you said that once you were one, before you became a 'fellow> > >> >>
traveler', explain what they are? were?> > >> >>> > >> >> Ed K> > >> >>
Greenville, SC, USA> > >> >> Attachment for Ben about Philidelphia
Bridges...> > >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19638028/cameras.jpg
cameras.jpg> > >> >>> > >> >> > >>
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