[Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler

Wed Sep 24 16:30:36 EDT 2008

Might be a good time for a little clarification on terms. Peter, you may 
be talking about clamcleats, but it sounds more like camcleats.

Clamcleats have no moving parts. They look like a v-slot with ridges 
inside that hold the line.

Camcleats have moving jaws that will only let the line move one direction.

Peter Thorn wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I got my black aluminum "racing style" clamcleats from APS, before I bought
> the fancy Harkens.   If you want them, I'll sell you them for half of
> today's price plus shipping.  But, you might want to check out the Harken
> 2741s.  They work so much better!
>
> PT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Weber
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler
>
>
> Mary Lou or any one, I would use my traveller more if I had better cleats.
> I have pretty worn "jam" cleats and they tend to slip.  If anyone has found
> cam cleates that will fit on the trallever bar, let me know where you got
> them.  Thanks Bob Weber> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:56:08 -0400> To:
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net> Subject: Re:
> [Rhodes22-list] Andrew Collins and his Fallow Traveler> > Assumptions,
> assumptions! How do you know that most Rhodies do not > use their traveller?
> In the interest of clarity - I don't know > whether they do or not. You
> could be right.> > We do use our traveller. We like fiddling with the
> controls and > seeing what we can do to improve performance. The traveller
> is a > great tool and I would encourage everyone to unwrap those lines and >
> try it out. There's nothing particularly mysterious about it. It just >
> increases or decreases the twist in the sail. It is easier to use > with a
> continuous line but you don't have to replace the existing > lines - just
> tie the two loose ends of the existing line together so > that it is one
> continuous line.> > Mary Lou> 1991 R22 Fretless> Rock Hall, MD> > > At 02:19
> PM 9/24/2008, you wrote:> > >Andrew:> >> >Most Rhodies hardly use their
> traveler. Peter Thorn recently posted> >modification to his R22's Traveler.
> His modification is in part based on> >his use of a traveller for racing. If
> you do not race, do not worry about> >not using it. Just ask Captain Rummy.>
>   
>>>> Years ago a Rhodie from Tennessee, aka, Wally Buck, devised a simple way
>>>>         
> to> >make the traveler easier to use. Instead of two separate lines as boat>
>   
>> comes from Stan, Wally replaced both with a single line. I made this>
>> modification and found that I would occassionally now use the traveler.
>>     
> The> >single line modification works if you must use the traveler.> >> >Ed
> K> >Greenville, SC, USA> >att
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19654894/encounters.jpg encounters.jpg>
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>> achment:> >> >> >Andrew Collins-2 wrote:> > >> > > Ben> > >> > > I too
>>     
> object to not knowing how to use the traveler, hence it lies fallow.> > >
> Maybe another sailing course will help me unravel its mysteries and reap> >
>   
>> the> > > rewards in knots.> > >> > > After what seemed like two months of
>>     
> the doldrums, I got in a couple of> > > hours of hull speed sailing on
> Monday, with 4' swells on LIS, no less. The> > > steady east wind created
> unusual conditions.> > >> > > Anybody else getting out?> > >> > > Andrew> >
>   
>> sv Carmen> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Robert Skinner> > >
>>     
> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com>wrote:> > >> > >> Ben,> > >>> > >> Perhaps it is
> best to allow Ed the use of his native tongue.> > >> That makes it easier to
> filter, and for those who choose to> > >> scan his rants, it helps them
> assess the credibility of the> > >> message.> > >>> > >> The quality,
> inventiveness, and quantity of name-calling is> > >> an amusing study for
> those who have already figured out what> > >> is going on. For the rest,
> spinning bull crap is no> > >> substitute for real knowledge, and there is
> so little of> > >> that available that the contest has degenerated into a> >
>   
>>> beauty contest on both sides.> > >>> > >> Nobody is about changing minds
>>>       
> here. It is all wishful> > >> thinking, roaring, knuckle dragging, and chest
> pounding.> > >>> > >> /Robert> > >>> > >> Ben Cittadino wrote:> > >> > Dear
> Ed;> > >> >> > >> > First, you date yourself when you use the term "fellow
> traveler".> > >> Nobody> > >> > has used that expression since 1953 or so.
> It was one of Joseph> > >> McCarthy's> > >> > favorite epithets. Back then
> it was cause to bring a libel suit. Now,> > >> as> > >> > then it's a taunt
> of fearful men who think everyone who disagrees with> > >> them> > >> > is a
> commie. I take exception to your use of the term "fellow> > >> traveler"> >
>   
>>> to> > >> > describe me or anyone else on this list. I want you to cut it
>>>       
> out. Got> > >> it?> > >> >> > >> > The term "Rockefeller Republican"
> describes those members of the> > >> Republican> > >> > Party who considered
> themselves socially liberal, fiscally> > >> conservative,> > >> and> > >> >
> strong on defense. It was used in the '60's to differentiate moderate> > >>
>   
>> Republicans from those supporting Barry Goldwater. Olympia Snow of> > >>
>>     
> Maine> > >> is> > >> > still considered an example of that school of
> thought.> > >> >> > >> > Cheers!> > >> >> > >> > Ben C.> > >> >> > >> >> >
>   
>>>>>>>>> Tootle wrote:> > >> >> Ben:> > >> >>> > >> >> Henry Paulson
>>>>>>>>>                   
> said the other day he was a "Rockefeller Republican".> > >> >>> > >> >>
> Since you said that once you were one, before you became a 'fellow> > >> >>
> traveler', explain what they are? were?> > >> >>> > >> >> Ed K> > >> >>
> Greenville, SC, USA> > >> >> Attachment for Ben about Philidelphia
> Bridges...> > >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19638028/cameras.jpg
> cameras.jpg> > >> >>> > >> >> > >>
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