[Rhodes22-list] Now Comes General Boats And

Thu Aug 6 22:19:20 EDT 2009

Regarding the LoRo Program:

I think the concept is good and I totally agree with it.  The idea of having "certified" boats that get factory support is a good idea.  Non-certified boats could be charged a fee to be certified, which would be a (5?) % of their purchase price.  If they do not want factory support, they could elect not to pay.  

If I did not have factory support I would not have a sailable boat.  If I was ever going to sell Yankee Clipper (no plans to do so) I would have Stan and GB sell it for me.

Bob K

> From: stan at rhodes22.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:02:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now Comes General Boats And
> 
> relax guys
> 
> This was not then, and is not yet, a formalized program - it is in the 
> thinking and testing stage where results are beginning to lead to a solution 
> based on a numbered LoRo certificate that a participating seller will pass 
> along with their boat. Since most buyers somehow come in contact with us 
> before buying a private sale used boat, they will be made aware of the 
> program and ask (or not ask) the seller for this certificate when they buy 
> that boat. The seller that can include the certificate along with the 
> title papers, will have a great selling advantage. The seller who opts to 
> not go with the program would not be able to give the buyer the certificate 
> and the buyer hopefully will pass on buying that boat. If the buyer does 
> decides to buy a boat where the seller can not include the numbered 
> certificate, the buyer will be doing so knowing that they have to move to 
> the end of the line if they ever have to have any future dealings with GB.
> 
> What we are open to now, from our thoughtful Rhodies is their take on this 
> gelling.
> 
> ss
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Culp" <dculp at hsbtx.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now Comes General Boats And
> 
> 
> > Stan:
> >
> > Thank you for your long post in explanation of Loyalty/Royalty which I am
> > going to abbreviate with the term "LoRo for future reference. I concur 
> > with
> > Cowie in that your post should be added as a section to the GBI website
> > perhaps after a little editing. The reason for this is that as a
> > prospective owner and buyer, I did not become aware of it until after
> > purchasing the boat and joining the list. As a new buyer, I was a little
> > taken aback by facing yet another fee which was nearly as much as the 
> > sales
> > tax that I paid the State of Texas for the boat. And as you will recall, 
> > I
> > was rather defensive about it at the time. By putting this information
> > upfront on the website, it can become a part of the negotiation between
> > buyer and seller on a used boat. I doubt seriously that the seller of my
> > boat paid any Lo/Ro fees. I have paid only $ 200.00 toward the buyer LoRo
> > because it caught me by surprise and frankly, these boats ain't cheap... I
> > spent my budget and then some.
> >
> > Had I known that LoRo was going to be an issue... It would have been 
> > brought
> > up during the negotiation for the boat. Of course, a buyer can never 
> > insure
> > that a seller will pay and vise versa but at least I would have had some
> > monies negotiated to cover my end. The buyer will always be the one very
> > interested in the continued operation of GBI and likely to pay for a
> > certificate. Most sellers will take the money and run.
> >
> > I look forward to details of the LoRo program when you notify us of it...
> > Especially how you intend to deal with present owners who have no vestment
> > or only a partial vestment like myself. The only caveat I see and this
> > sounds kind of ridiculous; is that I seem to recall some FTC rules
> > preventing manufacturers from withholding customer support for 
> > manufactured
> > goods still in production and then for a certain time period afterwards if
> > production ceases and the company continues in operation. So if lack of a
> > LoRo certificate means a reduced customer support program then you may 
> > want
> > to check with counsel to make sure of the legality. I don't want you to 
> > go
> > out of business and neither do I want you to be sued.
> >
> > Perhaps a "certified" boat owner gets a break on the price of parts and/or
> > goes to the top of the email/telephone queue. I'm sure you will think of
> > something.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:15:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now comes General Boats
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <24831681.post at talk.nabble.com>
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> >
> >
> > Stan:
> >
> > You have done a great job establishing and maintaining the general boats
> > company. The recycle program has been a significant part of your success.
> > As a buisness owner I can appreciate the challanges and opportuniites 
> > trying
> > to provide a product to be proud of and stay afloat at the same time. I 
> > am
> > in favor of a Loyalty/Royalty program along with any other specific
> > suggestions from GB. It would be helpful to have a clear statement on the
> > GB business plan and how we as a community of owners can support GB to
> > contribute to and benefit from the win/win/win conditions you aim to
> > support. Maybe this is already included on the GB web site however clear
> > communication of your message to current and future community members 
> > would
> > be helpful.
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