[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2058, Issue 1

Richard MacArthur Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com
Mon Dec 7 12:39:51 EST 2009


Frank, you and I have similar experiences since I now own a Rhodes 22
and I owned a Schucker motorsailer for 20 years. The stock boat came
with a 35' mast and I substituted a 50' mast in its place. I also had an
enormous genoa. This made it into a good sailer and it would point to 45
degrees (it had a centerboard but seemed to sail close to the wind with
it up or down, much like a Rhodes 22). For example I sailed it up the
Detroit river against the current and single handed it on a single
handed Mackinac race up Lake Huron (took a second place in class). My
boat was named Amazing Grace and that was because it would sail so well
even though it was 14' feet wide, weighed 30,000 pounds and only had a
3' draft with board up. I always believed Jim Schucker stretched the
lines of a Cal 25 and changed the keel shape to a long shallow rather
than a fin keel. On one club race I started 15 minutes late and beat a
43' William Garden designed Taiwan Ketch to the windward mark. Of course
it wouldn't compete with the light displacement racers. I sold it and I
understand it is in the Toledo area now. Good luck with your new Rhodes.
It is a thoroughbred sailer and is much easier to reef than your
Schucker.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Call for Advice (Rick)
   2. Re: Hello, from new member (Stephen Staum)
   3. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (Leland)
   4. Mast raising  Re:  Hello, from new member (Mary Lou Troy)
   5. Mast raising system: was Hello, from new member (Todd Tavares)
   6. Re: Hello, from new member (Derek Dodson)
   7. Re: Hello, from new member (Hank)
   8. Re: Hello, from new member (Derek Dodson)
   9. Re: Hello, from new member (Hank)
  10. Re: Word to PDF (Blanche DeFord)
  11. Re: Hello, from new member (KUHN, LELAND)
  12. Re: Hello, from new member (Michael D. Weisner)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:12:07 -0500
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Stan,

Sometimes old?  How does that work?  Sounds like a worthy objective for
us
who have become always old.

You're not evolutionary, you're revolutionary!

Rick

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:12 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> and don' believe everything this group says about stan -  he is not
that
> good and sometimes old, senile and grumpy.
>
> but do understand that many owners have boats much older than the one
you
> are getting so some of the down sides they refer to are not available
on
> the
> newer models with their evolution improvements.
>
> ss
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
>
>
> > Frank,
> >
> > Don't believe everything Stan says about this group. He is old and
senile
> > and sometimes grumpy.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/3/2009 6:06:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > ftugwell at cox.net writes:
> >
> > Thanks  for the welcome, Elle.  Great group.  Is your boat red?  I
have
> > been
> > wondering about color.  Stan thinks blue. I am thinking a  wine-dark
red.
> > Advice appreciated.
> >
> > Frank Tugwell
> >
> > Contact  Details:
> > http://www.franktugwell.tel
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of elle
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:46 PM
> > To: The  Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
> >
> > Ya  'done good', Frank.
> > You've just learned the first lesson as an R22 owner:  Stan knows it
all.
> > Listen to him..(and Rummy & lotsa other  guys here know stuff ,
too.)
> > :^0
> >
> > Welcome to 'da  list.'
> > elle
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22  Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Thu,  12/3/09, Frank Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Frank  Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for  Advice
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:30  PM
> >
> > Thanks, Dave.
> >
> > Many thanks for the quick  response.  Stan is very high on the
owners
> > group,
> > and often says "ask  the owners."
> >
> > Background: I have sailed many years, going from small (I  built and
> > sailed
> > a
> > Snipe-class boat when I was in my teens, owned a 30'  Soverel--like
a
> > Tartan--and most recently owned a 43' Schucker motor  sailer).  I
> received
> > an
> > offer on my boat a couple of months ago and,  acknowledging that I
have
> > not
> > been going on cruises lately, decided to  radically downsize.  This
led
> me
> > to
> > the Annapolis boat show and the  Rhodes 22.  I will be sailing at
first
> in
> > the Potomac, with weekend  cruises/overnights downriver, and then
maybe
> > moving to the Bay.  I  work in Crystal City, VA, which is a very
short
> > bike
> > ride to the Washington  Sailing Marina, so that is my first choice.
I
> may
> > consider using the  boat for the races held by the club that sails
out of
> > the
> > marina.  I  am 67 and relatively vigorous, hoping to teach my
grandkids
> > how
> > to  sail.  But the in-mast furling is a real attraction, as Stan
> > suggests.
> > I
> > have visited General Boats twice, and most recently  commissioned
Stan to
> > build a new Rhodes 22 (expensive, but covered by what  I received
for my
> > Shucker).  I have had "project" boats for 20 years,  and decided
that a
> > new
> > boat would be right this time.  Hope I am  correct.
> >
> > I am planning to have Stan install any  instruments.
> >
> >
> > Frank Tugwell
> >
> > Contact Details:
> > 6406 Waterway  Drive
> > Falls Church, VA. 22044
> > 703-658-9162
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of David
Bradley
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:47 PM
> > To:  The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for  Advice
> >
> > Hello Frank.  Welcome to the Rhodes list.  If you tell  us a little
more
> > about yourself, the waters you will sail in and the types  of
sailing you
> > will do the folks here will be able to provide better  advice.  For
> > example,
> > if you are sailing in coastal areas with narrow  cuts and strong
> currents,
> > you will be advised to get a larger motor than  you might need on a
lake
> > or
> > open bay.  Also, if you spend some time  searching the archives you
will
> > see
> > that there have been many discussions  on these topics.
> >
> > On your question on a depth finder, you can buy an  in-hull type
that
> > shoots
> > through the hull, but you need to be sure not to  mount it over the
keel.
> > Are you planning to have Stan install it, or do it  yourself after
the
> > fact?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu,  Dec 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Frank Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net>
>  wrote:
> >
> >> This is my first post to the Rhodes list and Stan has  suggested
that I
> > turn
> >> to the owner for advice.   I  am buying a new Rhodes 22 from Stan
> > (probably
> >> delivery in April, 2010)  and have a number of questions about
options.
> >> I
> >> would appreciate  any advice that other owners may offer.  A couple
of
> >> questions,  to begin with:
> >>
> >> a)       What engine  should I buy-what size and what kind?  Note
that
> >> the
> >> detachable  throttle and gear shift that appear on the boat-show
boat
> are
> > no
> >>  longer offered by the manufacturer.  I am particularly interested
in
> >> getting
> >> an engine that is strong enough to easily reach  hull speed while
> pulling
> > a
> >> very small dinghy.  I am also  concerned that the engine allow easy
> > control
> >> when entering and leaving  a marina.  Any suggestions appreciated.
> >> b)     What instruments do I need?  At this point I am  planning to
use
> > my
> >> handheld Garmin Oregon 400C for charts and  compass.  The one
instrument
> >> that
> >> I really would like is  a large-screen, fixed, depth sounder that I
can
> > put
> >> on the cabin and  see from the stern of the cockpit.  I would like
to
> >> have
> >> one that  is "in-hull" mounted, rather than "through-hull."  If
anyone
> >> has
> >>  experience with the options, I would appreciate help.
> >>
> >> Thanks  in advance.
> >>
> >> Frank Tugwell
> >>
> >> Contact  Details:
> >> 6406 Waterway Drive,
> >> Falls Church, VA 22044
> >>  703-658-9162
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:40:32 -0500
From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Derek,
I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of  
manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble  
finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.   
While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of  
uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when  
you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible  
disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the  
mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone  
who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast  
down.
Good sailing,

Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:

> Derek,
> Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the  
> owners
> manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
> other  members can either send it to you or point you in the  
> direction where it
> can be  found..
> Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane  
> that
> comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.  
> I use
> the  traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it  
> can be
> easily  raised or lower and kept under control.
> That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the  
> safest and
> easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in  
> many
> ways  the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many  
> attributes
> only  found on larger boats.
> Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
> forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would  
> tell us where
> you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
> willing to  help you out. We have people everywhere.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
>
> Hello,  I  just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
> except
> on a small sail boat and so I
>
> know I have a lot of learning  to do about rigging and really  
> everything in
> general. My goal is to set up  everything on my boat so it can be  
> set up and
> sailed single handed if  needed.
>
> I have read several things on the owners page and everyone  seems  
> pretty
> helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
>
>
>
> I  have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
>
> 1.       I am looking for a owner's manual with a  list of the  
> hardware that
> I need.
>
> 2.       My  boat does not have the winch or mast support that is  
> built on
> stern of boat  that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to  
> attempt to
> build something  and would like to hear from others for advice and  
> even
> some
> pictures.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from  everyone.
>
>
>
> Derek  Dodson
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:52:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Frank,

Sounds good--just give me a day's notice.  I consider "reasonably warm"
above 50 degrees, and with global warming and El Nino I'm sure we'll
have a
few of those days.

I normally don't go out unless it's above 40 degrees but with today's
sunshine and forecast for 9 mph winds I may need to make an exception.
I
was out Friday when it was in the upper 40s but the wind was very
disappointing.  The best part about sailing this time of year is that
you
don't need to keep your beer on ice.

Lee
1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
Kent Island, MD



Frank Tugwell wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alice and Lee.  I am going to be travelling most of the next
> month,
> but if we have a reasonably warm weekend day early in January, I will
be
> in
> contact to drop by. 
> 
> Frank Tugwell
>  
> Contact Details:
> http://www.franktugwell.tel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ALICE WEISZ
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:10 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
> 
> 
> Frank,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
> tiller.  "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more
than
> welcomed to stop over there and take a look.  Good luck!
> 
> 
> Alice Weisz
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
>> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>> 
>> Frank,
>> 
>> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
>> controls
> on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the tiller
and
> you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The Rhodes
with
> the
> tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the owner won't
mind
> if
> you look at the set-up.
>> 
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>> Kent Island, MD
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
>> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
>> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn.
For
> now,
>> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right.
>> As
>> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
>> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
> Stan).
>> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
> the
>> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>> 
>> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue.
I
>> saw
>> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
>> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
>> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
> and
>> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in
muddy
>> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
> sticky
>> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
>> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
>> wash
>> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
>> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection.
>> I
>> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted
to
>> use
>> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
>> might
>> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>> 
>> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Fuller
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>> 
>> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
>> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
>> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
>> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on
the
> boat
>> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
> it
>> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
> 20
>> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it
anymore,
>> but
>> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
>> BobF.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:40:02 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising  Re:  Hello, from new member
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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I agree with Stephen on mast raising but I think it is important to 
make it clear if we are talking about the IMF rig or not. The in-mast 
furling system makes the mast considerably heavier than a 
conventional mast. You are raising the weight of the main, the boom 
and perhaps the jib in addition to the weight of the mast. If Derek's 
boat is conventionally rigged (I think Greg PA's is a conventional 
rig) doing it manually becomes much more feasible.

There are numerous designs for mast raising equipment on the Internet 
but if Derek's boat already has the block on the cabin for the 
General Boats crane he might want investigate the cost of a system 
from Stan. It's a proven system.

Mary Lou


At 12:40 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
>Derek,
>I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of
>manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble
>finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.
>While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of
>uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when
>you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible
>disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
>2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the
>mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone
>who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast
>down.
>Good sailing,
>
>Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Derek,
> > Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
> > owners
> > manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of
the
> > other  members can either send it to you or point you in the
> > direction where it
> > can be  found..
> > Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane
> > that
> > comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.
> > I use
> > the  traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it
> > can be
> > easily  raised or lower and kept under control.
> > That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the
> > safest and
> > easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
> > many
> > ways  the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
> > attributes
> > only  found on larger boats.
> > Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be
very
> > forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would
> > tell us where
> > you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close
by
> > willing to  help you out. We have people everywhere.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
> >
> > Hello,  I  just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed
before
> > except
> > on a small sail boat and so I
> >
> > know I have a lot of learning  to do about rigging and really
> > everything in
> > general. My goal is to set up  everything on my boat so it can be
> > set up and
> > sailed single handed if  needed.
> >
> > I have read several things on the owners page and everyone  seems
> > pretty
> > helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > I  have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
> >
> > 1.       I am looking for a owner's manual with a  list of the
> > hardware that
> > I need.
> >
> > 2.       My  boat does not have the winch or mast support that is
> > built on
> > stern of boat  that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to
> > attempt to
> > build something  and would like to hear from others for advice and
> > even
> > some
> > pictures.
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing from  everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Derek  Dodson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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> > archives go
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> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:21:37 -0500
From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising system: was Hello, from new
	member
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <8CC44C8D8FC5C7A-190-2DDC at web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


 Derek,

   There are a couple of videos on the web showing the GB system in use.
http://www.sailingtexas.com/Movies/Rhodes22c/srhodes22c.html

There are pics as well as an explanation of the setup and operation on
the Rhodes22 owners site (with permission of General Boats) and many
pics and discussion in the list archives.
http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/GBMAST.jpg 
http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/Rhodes22-1988-MastHoist-Raven.pdf

     GB has made several changes to their system over the years, mostly
improving how the mast is kept from leaning sideways and how the "crane
pole attaches to the mast. If you arehandy with tools, you can easily
make your own mast raising systemequal to or better than the General
Boats setup for under $200 in parts, supplies, and hardware. Having
never seen the GB system in use or in person, nor having read the
manual, I made my own.  In about 3 hours, I made a system (using the
trailer winch) and had the mast down by myself with no trouble.

    Do you homework so you get an understanding of how the GB mast hoist
system works first.  I can help you with pics, explanations, material
lists etc. when you are ready to start building you own.

Todd Tavares

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member


Derek,
I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of  
manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble  
finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.   
While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of  
uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when  
you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible  
disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the  
mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone  
who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast  
down.
Good sailing,

Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:

> Derek,
> Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the  
> owners
> manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
> other  members can either send it to you or point you in the  
> direction where it
> can be  found..
> Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane  
> that
> comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.  
> I use
> the  traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it  
> can be
> easily  raised or lower and kept under control.
> That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the  
> safest and
> easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in  
> many
> ways  the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many  
> attributes
> only  found on larger boats.
> Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
> forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would  
> tell us where
> you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
> willing to  help you out. We have people everywhere.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
>
> Hello,  I  just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
> except
> on a small sail boat and so I
>
> know I have a lot of learning  to do about rigging and really  
> everything in
> general. My goal is to set up  everything on my boat so it can be  
> set up and
> sailed single handed if  needed.
>
> I have read several things on the owners page and everyone  seems  
> pretty
> helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
>
>
>
> I  have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
>
> 1.       I am looking for a owner's manual with a  list of the  
> hardware that
> I need.
>
> 2.       My  boat does not have the winch or mast support that is  
> built on
> stern of boat  that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to  
> attempt to
> build something  and would like to hear from others for advice and  
> even
> some
> pictures.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from  everyone.
>
>
>
> Derek  Dodson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and  
> archives go
> to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
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> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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__________________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:00:48 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <01a001ca76d8$b7c624b0$27526e10$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Greg,
I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
pretty
sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some things
in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced. 
Thanks for the advice 
Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member


Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on. 

I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website. 

I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.

Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.

Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
 

-----
Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:04:33 -0500
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
	<c319c8b50912061704v74c44bdai6d53bb1fad6493a9 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Derek,

There are no ropes on a boat.  There is running rigging and standing
rigging.  Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
sheets, that are used to control the sails.  The standing rigging on a
rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the mast
such
as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays.  Gotta
keep
up with the terminology. :-)

Hank

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:

> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
http://old.nabble.com/Hello%2C-from-new-member-tp26657439p26665265.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
go
> to
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:10:28 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <01a101ca76da$110fd9c0$332f8d40$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Hank,
I am very new to sailing and this is my first real sail boat. I am
learning
some of the terminology. However what do you call the rope you tie to
the
anchor chain, and the rope you tie to the dock?

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:05 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member

Derek,

There are no ropes on a boat.  There is running rigging and standing
rigging.  Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
sheets, that are used to control the sails.  The standing rigging on a
rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the mast
such
as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays.  Gotta
keep
up with the terminology. :-)

Hank

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:

> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
http://old.nabble.com/Hello%2C-from-new-member-tp26657439p26665265.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
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go
> to
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>
> __________________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:14:01 -0500
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
	<c319c8b50912061714k60642ddw426ed8ca4d1369c8 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Anchor rode and dock lines.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:

> Thanks Hank,
> I am very new to sailing and this is my first real sail boat. I am
learning
> some of the terminology. However what do you call the rope you tie to
the
> anchor chain, and the rope you tie to the dock?
>
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:05 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
> Derek,
>
> There are no ropes on a boat.  There is running rigging and standing
> rigging.  Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
> sheets, that are used to control the sails.  The standing rigging on a
> rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the
mast
> such
> as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays.  Gotta
keep
> up with the terminology. :-)
>
> Hank
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Greg,
> > I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> > bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However
there
> are
> > some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I
am
> > pretty
> > sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
> in
> > a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> > Thanks for the advice
> > Derek
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
> >
> >
> > Derek
> > Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The
people on
> > this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by
the
> > summer
> > working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> > and
> > learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
> >
> > I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> > website.
> >
> > I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
> easily,
> > I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> > with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the
stays to
> > the mast so they don't kink.
> >
> > Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
> running
> > rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine
I
> have
> > seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
> >
> > Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want
to
> talk.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Greg PA
> > s/v Serenity
> > 79 Rhodes 22
> > North East MD
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
http://old.nabble.com/Hello%2C-from-new-member-tp26657439p26665265.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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archives go
> > to
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> >
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> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> to
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:18:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Blanche DeFord <bdford5 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Word to PDF
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <132087.92576.qm at web44906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

FYI -

Open Office is free, runs on Windows, LINUX, Mac, etc. 
It has all the important functions of MS Office.
It also puts out PDF files from spread sheets, documents, etc.

Sincerely,
Blanche DeFord

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
wrote:

From: Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Word to PDF
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:49 AM

In case Rummy or anyone else is interested:? Microsoft has a free add-in
for
Office 2007 that will allow you to publish word docs, spreadsheets, and
access reports to PDF.? I don't know why they make you hunt for it
online
and install it separately.? I didn't bookmark the page where you get it;
hopefully it's not hard to find.

That's probably too big a PITA to worry with just for an occasional post
to
this list, but if you ever send docs to clients or vendors and have
version
problems, then this can be quite helpful.

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:39
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Condensation

Yeah I'm guessing Word docs are getting stripped.? Can you save it as? 
a PDF?? More useful that way anyway.? If you can't convert it, send it? 
to me and I'll do it for you.

Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Dec 1, 2009, at 05:54, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Well, I see the attachment (word document) was stripped. John, any? 
> help
> here? If anyone wants the drawing I will send it directly.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2009 5:52:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:
>
> Many? years ago I was having condensation problems in Rum Runner. I? 
> wasn't
>
> satisfied with the amount of air the Nicro vent moved so I made my own
> using
> a? 12 volt case fan from a computer. Attached is the drawing I? made? 
> at the
> time to? explain to the list what I had made. It worked? very? 
> efficiently
> and
> eliminated? my condensation/mildew problem? completely.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:14:34 -0500
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Greg,

"I priced some things in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced."  Welcome to boating!

Cleaning, cruising, safety, and fishing supplies you can pick up at your
local K-Mart.  I bought some cheap dock lines there that aren't very
pretty but work just fine.

West Marine prices are high but they usually carry most of the sailing
supplies you'll need.  Browse the store and write down everything you
need and then go online and find the best prices.  West Marine will
match the online prices of their competitors.

Good luck!

Lee
1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
Kent Island, MD

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dodson
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:01 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member

Thanks Greg,
I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
pretty
sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some things
in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced. 
Thanks for the advice 
Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member


Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on. 

I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website. 

I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.

Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.

Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
 

-----
Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:44:37 -0500
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Can you say http://www.defender.com/?

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY


From: "KUHN, LELAND" Monday, December 07, 2009 7:14 AM
> Greg,
>
> "I priced some things in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced."  Welcome to
boating!
>
> Cleaning, cruising, safety, and fishing supplies you can pick up at
your
> local K-Mart.  I bought some cheap dock lines there that aren't very
> pretty but work just fine.
>
> West Marine prices are high but they usually carry most of the sailing
> supplies you'll need.  Browse the store and write down everything you
> need and then go online and find the best prices.  West Marine will
> match the online prices of their competitors.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dodson
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:01 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
> have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
> are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
> in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
> on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
> easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
> to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
> running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
> have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
> talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
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