[Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list content...

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 3 10:26:08 EST 2009


>I suspect that through the loss of Bill, you folks will see a lot fewer 
>posts, and most definitely will see fewer answers of substance about 
>sailing questions.

That may well be true, Herb, but a message delivered by a poisoned pen loses its audience....just witness the aftereffects now....there are other knowledgeable people out there who don't have to beat others to get their points across...evidence the several literate sailors (newbies and others )who have bailed in the past 6 mos and after the latest round of invective.

elle


We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list content...
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 5:58 PM
> Sorry Mary, I disagree.
> 
> No one's "time" is being taken if they
> don't read the message. At least, 
> not much. It takes very little time to hit the delete key.
> The "voice" would only "permeate the
> list" when someone reads what they 
> wrote. This is NOT speaking. It's reading, and writing.
> For something on 
> this list to be heard, someone needs to read it.
> 
> I suspect that through the loss of Bill, you folks will see
> a lot fewer 
> posts, and most definitely will see fewer answers of
> substance about 
> sailing questions.
> 
> 
> Mary Lou Troy wrote:
> > Ed,
> > It is not just the newbies saying the tone of the 
> > list has got to change. It is some of us who have 
> > been around here from close to the beginning.
> >
> > Politics were once OK. If you had suggested we 
> > ban politics when we switched off of Sailnet I'd 
> > have said it wasn't necessary. Now it seems 
> > politics can't be discussed with belittling the 
> > beliefs of a lot of people. There has been 
> > ugliness and disrespect from both sides the 
> > political fence and some very nasty things said 
> > by some list members about other list members. I 
> > know we always said "bar" but the bar is in
> sorry 
> > need a bit of regulation when folks are hitting 
> > each other over the head with their political 
> > beliefs. I don't go to a bar to have my time 
> > taken up by some tiresome evangelist who is 
> > constantly telling me or my friends how stupid 
> > they are. Yes I could relegate them to the trash 
> > bin but their voices were still permeating the 
> > list and affecting everybody. Besides even the 
> > most political of our posters have made real 
> > contributions to other topics (including sailing) 
> > I'm not in favor of banning anyone unless they 
> > can't behave themselves in the bar.
> >
> > I disagree with you that the old-timers who have 
> > left have left because they were no longer the 
> > center of attention. If I had left last week or 
> > last month it would have been because I was 
> > thoroughly disgusted with the way people were 
> > attacking each others ideas. I know from meeting 
> > a lot of these folks that they are not that way 
> > in person. I like to see the list more reflective 
> > of that. If it takes a ban or moratorium on 
> > political posts or a revision of the charter so 
> > be it or some sort of moderation so be it. I 
> > don't know what will solve the problem. I
> don't 
> > know that the list will survive this even with 
> > changes. I just know that if it continued the way 
> > it was going I wouldn't be long in following Fred
> out the door.
> >
> > Ed, if you want a party/meeting in Edenton you 
> > have to find someone who thinks its a great idea 
> > to work on it. I think it's a great idea. I might 
> > be able to come or even help but right now I 
> > can't organize it. All of the get-togethers that 
> > we've had have been serendipitous. It takes a 
> > bunch of people thinking it's a great idea at a 
> > time when someone has the time and energy to make 
> > it happen. New blood is always helpful in that 
> > regard. BTW, I don't seem to have the date - I 
> > tried searching the archives but couldn't find it.
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:20 PM 1/2/2009, you wrote:
> >   
> >> Lee, Thena's history of this forum is only
> half 
> >> complete.  The original group moved off the 
> >> Sailnet list for several reasons to include 
> >> extraneous subjects.  On the old list that was 
> >> limited to sailing topics, it was tiring and 
> >> redundant to see post, âEURoeTest to see if list
> is 
> >> workingâEUR?.  One of the chief culprits of those
> 
> >> posts is still making music. The Political stuff 
> >> was instigated by a reader from North 
> >> Carolina.  I suspect that he did so just to 
> >> agitate the congregation.  And he still does it, 
> >> just not as much. We had one member who got to 
> >> using foul language so much that he was 
> >> excommunicated.  What has appeared on the Rhodes 
> >> List for the past few months happened four and 
> >> eight years ago.  The original congregation said 
> >> barroom not living room.  Now we have new 
> >> congregants who bought the house next to the 
> >> airport runway wanting the airplanes to go 
> >> away.  I would suggest that a couple of old 
> >> timers have left because they are no longer the 
> >> center of the party.  No body was stroking their 
> >> egos anymore, but rather confronting them.  Mary 
> >> Lou suggested the Chesapeake Rhodies were due 
> >> for a party.  It has been suggested in the past, 
> >> but nothing ever done about meeting in 
> >> Edenton.  In a few weeks there will be another 
> >> birthday that would be appropriate for a winter 
> >> wingding.  The airport is right across the 
> >> street from General Boats. Those guys with 
> >> airplanes could even fly in!  Mary Lou should 
> >> have the date somewhere? My two cents worth, Ed 
> >> K See if this attachment comes thru... 
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p21254293/combo%25235.exe 
> >> combo%235.exe Or this one from 2001: 
> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p21254293/day_o.mp3 
> >> day_o.mp3 -- View this message in context: 
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/Leland-a-reply-about-list-content...-tp21254293p21254293.html
> 
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