[Rhodes22-list] Herb's Defense
elle
watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 10 22:43:51 EST 2009
Oh, sh*t, Herb.
Whatever.
elle
We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Herb's Defense
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 3:35 PM
> Elle
>
> Again, you misunderstand me.
>
> I don't care as to whether "everyone keeps pickin
> on me", or even if
> they are. However, when I DO have someone address me
> directly (which you
> have done this time), I will respond. You don't like
> it? Simple solution
> - don't address me directly.
>
> As to the "pickin' on folks", I don't
> feel particularly targeted in this
> case, at least not individually. The post that got your
> motor revvin
> this time was my response to someone's comment about
> Brad, and my
> response was a bit mild at that.
>
> Besides, I thought you were going to do all this
> back-channel?
>
> As far as me "having the last word", are you
> suggesting it should be my
> position that you spout nonsense like this not only ABOUT
> me, but TO me
> (you did address it to me), and I should simply remain
> mute.
>
> Sorry would-be schoolyard monitor, you're not really.
> Take the whistle
> off, and quit being the weird kid.
>
>
> elle wrote:
> > Herb,
> >
> > You are probably a very nice person in the real world
> with friends who would walk the mile for you.
> >
> > However, the endearing qualities which you may have do
> not come through too well on the web.
> >
> > You always have an answer as to why 'everyone
> keeps pickin' on you' and why you are so
> misunderstood, 'and 'that's not what I
> said.'
> >
> > Methinks if you have to keep explaining and defending
> what you've said you should take a long look at what you
> say & how the real world might interpret it.
> >
> > Of course, you will want to have the last word.
> >
> > elle
> >
> > You WILL NOT spoil my good mood!
> >
> >
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
> (Lady in Red)
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is There A Glitch With
> the List
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:59 PM
> >
> > Elle,
> >
> > The "weird kid" was in keeping with your
> schoolyard monitor metaphor.
> >
> > You came up with the metaphor, not I. I believe in
> your schoolyard
> > metaphor, I was referred to as the "schoolyard
> bully". So, I'll
> > ask you
> > the same question.
> >
> > Can you not make your point without name-calling and
> disparaging remarks??
> >
> > Do so, and I will respond in kind.
> >
> > If you'll scroll back through, I think you'll
> see where the disparaging
> >
> > remarks in this little thread started...
> >
> > elle wrote:
> >
> >>> and I'll ignore the weird kid
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can you not make your point without name-calling
> and disparaging remarks??
> >>
> >> elle
> >>
> >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but
> we can adjust our sails.
> >>
> >> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
> "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is There A Glitch
> With the List
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> >>
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >
> >> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 1:27 PM
> >>
> >> I beg to differ. It was NOT dead. He had just
> posted it. I didn't
> >> respond to it days later, I responded to him as it
> came up.
> >>
> >> The issue of civility is far from
> "dead", at least in the minds
> >>
> > of
> >
> >> some
> >> of us. I say it is NOT civil to say "good
> riddance" to Brad
> >>
> > being
> >
> >> gone.
> >> He had friends on here. I'm sure even some of
> the folks that don't
> >>
> > like
> >
> >> him feel the same way.
> >>
> >> As far as "back channel" discussions,
> you do not get to dictate
> >>
> > to me
> >
> >> where I post a message. I did not start a
> conversation with you, I
> >> responded to a post. You directed a response to
> me, not "back
> >> channel",
> >> but here on the list, so that's where I
> responded. Had you sent it
> >>
> > back
> >
> >> channel, that's where I responded. In the
> schoolyard the teacher gets
> >>
> > to
> >
> >> blow the whistle and tell the kid "I'll
> see you after
> >>
> > class";
> >
> >> however,
> >> we're not in a schoolyard, and I'll ignore
> the weird kid who
> >>
> > thinks
> >
> >> she's in charge, and just keep playing.
> >>
> >>
> >> elle wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Herb,
> >>>
> >>> You responded to something that was dead &
> needed no response.
> >>>
> >>> after this I will take my own advice & go
> back channel...so if you
> >>>
> >>>
> >> want to discuss, use watermusic38 at yahoo.com.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Until then, go get a skin.Yours isn't even
> thin.
> >>>
> >>> But I love 'ya anyhow.
> >>>
> >>> elle
> >>>
> >>> We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we can adjust our
> >>>
> > sails.
> >
> >>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
> "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> From: Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is There A Glitch
> With the List
> >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> >>>
> >>>
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:34 PM
> >>>
> >>> Da**it, Elle
> >>>
> >>> If you can't say something nice, don't
> say it at all.
> >>>
> >>> Just what did YOUR retort contribute??? Why do
> YOU have to have the
> >>>
> > last
> >
> >>> word?
> >>>
> >>> Listen lady, my "retort" had the
> exact same purpose to HIM
> >>>
> > that
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >> YOURS
> >>
> >>
> >>> did to ME.
> >>>
> >>> So, get over it. I know you don't mind the
> shit when it comes from
> >>>
> > the
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>> left to the right, but go "blow your
> whistle" at your pet
> >>>
> >>>
> >> students
> >>
> >>
> >>> from
> >>> time to time, and I'll be impressed with
> the playground monitor
> >>>
> >>>
> >> metaphor.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Personally, I'm disappointed everytime
> someone leaves. I don't
> >>>
> > say
> >
> >>> "good
> >>> riddance" to Ben being gone, or Rummy.
> Contributors leaving the
> >>>
> > list
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>
> >>> a bad thing. I suppose though, that it's
> acceptable to run off the
> >>>
> >>>
> >> ones
> >>
> >>
> >>> that have a right-leaning view...
> >>>
> >>> elle wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Da**it, Herb!
> >>>>
> >>>> If you can't say something nice ,
> don't say it at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just what did this retort contribute? Why
> do you have to have the
> >>>>
> > last
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> word??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> **Those are rhetorical questions. Do not
> require nor expect a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> response.**
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Get over it, get with it, or get off it.
> >>>>
> >>>> elle
> >>>>
> >>>> (I'm in TOO DA** good a mood to be
> messed with....)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we can adjust our
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> sails.
> >>
> >>
> >>>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06
> "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>> From: Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is There A
> Glitch With the List
> >>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:18 PM
> >>>>
> >>>> "Good riddance" - Yep, civility
> in all of its one-sided
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> glory.
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I find it ironic, that when asked to
> be civil, several people
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> didn't
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> think they could do so and removed
> themselves from the list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> Works
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> for
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> me! Got to wonder about people who
> didn't think they
> >>>>>
> > could
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> converse
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> a civil manner. Good riddance. - rob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Brad
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> Haslett
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:06 AM
> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is There
> A Glitch With the List
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wally,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the interest of civil conversation,
> I just removed myself
> >>>>>
> > from
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> R-22 list on my Yahoo account, and
> will do the same with my
> >>>>>
> > Gmail
> >
> >>>>> account in just a few moments.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Over the years, I've made a number
> of good friends in the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> strangest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> places from this list, and we will
> stay in touch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't be a stranger!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:53 AM, TN
> Rhodey
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> <tnrhodey at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Brad, Perhaps the time of year may
> have something to do
> >>>>>>
> > with
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> reduced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> posts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Just like every other year/ As you
> well know there have
> >>>>>>
> > been
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> plenty of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> "sound checks" in the
> past. Nothing new
> >>>>>>
> > here.....the
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> will be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There has been a request for civil
> conversation. Big deal.
> >>>>>>
> > No
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >> need
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> beat a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> dead horse. Make your point and
> move on.
> >>>>>> Wally
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:59 AM,
> Todd Tavares
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well Brad,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> At least you did not call it
> "Das List" lol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Todd T
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Brad
> Haslett"
> >>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email
> List"
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]
> Is There A Glitch With
> >>>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> List
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009
> 13:25:45 -0600
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yeah,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a glitch with the
> list! It's called the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> "Fairness
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> Doctrine".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Da List" was
> always on the cutting edge of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> news
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> politics until
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> someone got their feelings
> hurt because someone else
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> insulted
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Chocolate Baby Jesus from
> Chicago. Be careful what
> >>>>>>>
> > you
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> wish
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> for!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Chocolate Baby Jesus is safe.
> The Rhodes 22 list is
> >>>>>>>
> > dead.
> >
> >>>>>>> Good work Rummy! Thanks for
> inviting me back the last
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> time
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> list
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> was dead.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Brad
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:10
> PM, Caesar Paul wrote:
> >>>>>>> > Hi Michael,
> >>>>>>> > I have not recieved any
> mail for a few days now.
> >>>>>>>
> > Is
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> problem
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> > with me or the List?
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Thanks for all that you
> do.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Caesar
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>
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