[Rhodes22-list] Lee helm

[Alan Robertson]

We  have to reduce the size of the genoa during light airs to avoid lee helm. If wind picks up , if we tauten foot of the jib and let it out proportionately; it seems to work. No lee helm if on jib alone and downwind.
Bigal
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: cjlowe at sssnet.com<mailto:cjlowe at sssnet.com> 
  To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm


  Did you detach the forestay from the top of the mast,in the off season and
  maybe not get it back in the same holes it came out of for this season?
  Did you change size of the head sail,or get the sails cleaned? Maybe the
  main sail isn't deploying all the way out? That's  all I can think of.

  Jerry Lowe



  The only other thing I can think of is weight distribution. We find
  > the boat sails better with some weight forward. We try to keep the
  > water tank (at the aft end of the v-berth on our boat) at least 2/3 full.
  >
  > I seem to remember Stan saying that the boat should have lee to
  > neutral helm in light air and should produce slight weather helm in
  > heavier air.
  >
  > Mary Lou
  > 1991 R22 Fretless
  > Rock Hall, MD
  >
  > At 07:44 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
  >>Somehow the center of force of the main is too far forward.  Is your mast
  >>vertical to the centerline forward to aft?  That ought not to be an issue
  >>with IMF with its wide cross section, unless your mast step is busted
  >> funny
  >>and tilting the mast forward.  Can't think of anything, else.  I assume
  >> your
  >>main sheet is taunt and keeping the boom within the back stays.
  >>
  >>On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Tom Bickerstaff <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>> wrote:
  >>
  >> > With only the main unfurled, the helm wants to send the bow off the
  >> wind.
  >> > The  topping lift is slack, the motor is all the way out of the water
  >> and
  >> > the centerboard is all the way down.
  >> >
  >> > -----Original Message-----
  >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
  >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
  >> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:58 PM
  >> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
  >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
  >> >
  >> > What does your helm feel like with only the main unfurled?  I assume
  >> your
  >> > topping lift is slack when the main is out, your motor is pulled all
  >> the
  >> > way
  >> > out of the water and your center/diamond board is all the way down.
  >> >
  >> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Tom Bickerstaff <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>>
  >> wrote:
  >> >
  >> > > I have IMF.  So, what's the solution?
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
  >> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
  >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:41 PM
  >> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
  >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > Bick,
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > A lee helm means your mainsail isn't pulling enough, assuming you
  >> have
  >> > IMF.
  >> > >
  >> > > If not IMF, your forestay could be too short.
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > Rick
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tom Bickerstaff <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>>
  >> > wrote:
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > Help!
  >> > >
  >> > > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > I seem to have a lee helm no matter how much jib I put out.  It
  >> scares
  >> > > the
  >> > >
  >> > > > you-know-what out of me b/c I solo a lot.  If I take a banger from
  >> the
  >> > > boom
  >> > >
  >> > > > or accidentally fall overboard, where the H will the boat end up?
  >> > >
  >> > > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > Is my forestay too loose or too tight, or is there something else
  >> I
  >> > > should
  >> > >
  >> > > > look for as being the cause?
  >> > >
  >> > > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > Thanks.
  >> > >
  >> > > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > Bick
  >> > >
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