[Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
Leland
LKUHN at cnmc.org
Fri Jul 3 01:06:36 EDT 2009
I can understand why a little weather helm is good, but when people say
their boats have a little weather helm I don't quite understand it. If my
sails are balanced I have no helm at all. If I have too much Genoa out I
get lee helm. If I have too little Genoa out I get weather helm. Aren't
all boats like that?
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
Kent Island, MD
Alan Robertson-2 wrote:
>
> We have to reduce the size of the genoa during light airs to avoid lee
> helm. If wind picks up , if we tauten foot of the jib and let it out
> proportionately; it seems to work. No lee helm if on jib alone and
> downwind.
> Bigal
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
>
>
> Did you detach the forestay from the top of the mast,in the off season
> and
> maybe not get it back in the same holes it came out of for this season?
> Did you change size of the head sail,or get the sails cleaned? Maybe the
> main sail isn't deploying all the way out? That's all I can think of.
>
> Jerry Lowe
>
>
>
> The only other thing I can think of is weight distribution. We find
> > the boat sails better with some weight forward. We try to keep the
> > water tank (at the aft end of the v-berth on our boat) at least 2/3
> full.
> >
> > I seem to remember Stan saying that the boat should have lee to
> > neutral helm in light air and should produce slight weather helm in
> > heavier air.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > At 07:44 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
> >>Somehow the center of force of the main is too far forward. Is your
> mast
> >>vertical to the centerline forward to aft? That ought not to be an
> issue
> >>with IMF with its wide cross section, unless your mast step is busted
> >> funny
> >>and tilting the mast forward. Can't think of anything, else. I
> assume
> >> your
> >>main sheet is taunt and keeping the boom within the back stays.
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Tom Bickerstaff
> <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> > With only the main unfurled, the helm wants to send the bow off the
> >> wind.
> >> > The topping lift is slack, the motor is all the way out of the
> water
> >> and
> >> > the centerboard is all the way down.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:58 PM
> >> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
> >> >
> >> > What does your helm feel like with only the main unfurled? I
> assume
> >> your
> >> > topping lift is slack when the main is out, your motor is pulled
> all
> >> the
> >> > way
> >> > out of the water and your center/diamond board is all the way down.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Tom Bickerstaff
> <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I have IMF. So, what's the solution?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:41 PM
> >> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lee helm
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Bick,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > A lee helm means your mainsail isn't pulling enough, assuming you
> >> have
> >> > IMF.
> >> > >
> >> > > If not IMF, your forestay could be too short.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Rick
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tom Bickerstaff
> <tabick at mchsi.com<mailto:tabick at mchsi.com>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Help!
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I seem to have a lee helm no matter how much jib I put out. It
> >> scares
> >> > > the
> >> > >
> >> > > > you-know-what out of me b/c I solo a lot. If I take a banger
> from
> >> the
> >> > > boom
> >> > >
> >> > > > or accidentally fall overboard, where the H will the boat end
> up?
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Is my forestay too loose or too tight, or is there something
> else
> >> I
> >> > > should
> >> > >
> >> > > > look for as being the cause?
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Bick
> >> > >
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