[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1917, Issue 1
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Wed Jul 15 12:15:27 EDT 2009
OH MY STARS!
I just saw one of the mails and all my typos. Just goes to prove
you shouldn't do anything when your tired. I've been spending
alot of time on the militarymarina website. I am surprised
so many people have viewed it. Had 302 last sunday and its not
finished yet. If anyone has boat items that they would like to sell,
I have a free classified section. Also Stan, I hope you get lots of
boat orders. :)
Deena
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Today's Topics:
1. trailer camping and anti-sway bar (randerson at iowatelecom.net)
2. Re: trailer camping and anti-sway bar (Ron Singerman)
3. Re: trailer camping and anti-sway bar (Mary Lou Troy)
4. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Lowe, Rob)
5. Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay (John Shulick)
6. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Michael D. Weisner)
7. Re: Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay (Michael D. Weisner)
8. Gunnel mounted swim ladders (Lowe, Rob)
9. Fw: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (stan)
10. Re: Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay (Lowe, Rob)
11. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(John Lock)
12. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got mynew old Rhodes
(John Lock)
13. Re: Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay (John Lock)
14. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Lowe, Rob)
15. Re: Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay (John Shulick)
16. Re: trailer camping and anti-sway bar (Caesar Paul)
17. Re: Gunnel mounted swim ladders (John Shulick)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: randerson at iowatelecom.net
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
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I am looking into buying a Rhodes 22. I am relatively new to the list.
Can some of you who actually trailer your 22 give me some insight into
using the boat as a camper while en route to your sailing destination?
I have read some comments about finding the "sweet spot" on the single
axle trailer to have adequate tongue weight and avoid fishtailing of the
trailer. In this regard do any of you have experience with an anti-sway
bar on your trailer. I pull a Coleman tent trailer and have an anti-sway
bar on this trailer. It seems to suppress fishtailing. Any comments
regarding this and a Rhodes 22?
Rich Anderson
Clarinda, Iowa
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:32:47 -0400
From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
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Rich,
I have some experience trailering and pulling my single axel Triad Trailer
with my R-22 distances. Yes, I have used my R-22 for sleeping purposes on
the road. As far as fishtailing: regardless of whether you have an anti
sway bar or not you have to have at least 10% of the entire weight of the
trailer and boat as tongue weight. The "sweet spot" merely is a guide to
that location of the boat on the trailer that assures you of the proper
distribution of weight.
Fair winds,
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:30 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
>
> I am looking into buying a Rhodes 22. I am relatively new to the list.
> Can some of you who actually trailer your 22 give me some insight into
> using the boat as a camper while en route to your sailing destination?
>
> I have read some comments about finding the "sweet spot" on the single
> axle trailer to have adequate tongue weight and avoid fishtailing of the
> trailer. In this regard do any of you have experience with an anti-sway
> bar on your trailer. I pull a Coleman tent trailer and have an anti-sway
> bar on this trailer. It seems to suppress fishtailing. Any comments
> regarding this and a Rhodes 22?
>
> Rich Anderson
> Clarinda, Iowa
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:43:22 -0400
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
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Rich
We have never used the Rhodes as a camper but have trailered it back
and forth from PA to MD (back when we lived in PA) and do a fair
amount of traveling with a travel trailer. As Ron said, you still
need adequate tongue weight. Once you get the tongue weight you don't
have the fishtailing.
The biggest barrier I can see to using it as a camper is that with
the mast on the bow and the crutch support for travelling you can't
raise the pop-top and that it is at least a 6 foot climb on and off
the boat. That said, it would certainly be doable. It just wouldn't
be as nice as staying on the boat when the boat is in the water. When
loaded properly the boat trailers wonderfully. We never felt the need
for an anti-sway device back when we towed distances with a Chevy
Blazer. We haven't towed it any distance with the current Nissan
Frontier pick-up but I would think it would be even better.
Best,
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
At 12:30 AM 7/15/2009, you wrote:
>I am looking into buying a Rhodes 22. I am relatively new to the list.
>Can some of you who actually trailer your 22 give me some insight into
>using the boat as a camper while en route to your sailing destination?
>
>I have read some comments about finding the "sweet spot" on the single
>axle trailer to have adequate tongue weight and avoid fishtailing of the
>trailer. In this regard do any of you have experience with an anti-sway
>bar on your trailer. I pull a Coleman tent trailer and have an anti-sway
>bar on this trailer. It seems to suppress fishtailing. Any comments
>regarding this and a Rhodes 22?
>
>Rich Anderson
>Clarinda, Iowa
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:51:11 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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Rod,
Here is what Ron posted earlier. May have to cut and paste links to get
them to work. - rob
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090710/ef1
4e648/attachment.jpg
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090710/ef1
4e648/attachment-0001.jpg
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ellner
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:26 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
Hi everyone,
I missed seeing the "walkthru" picture of the stern rail. Would someone
direct me to it.
I just replaced the IMF bottom bearing from the 1987 version to the
newer version with the bearing sleeves. It is a great improvement.
Much easer to operate.
Thanks
Rod Ellner
Toy Blew 1987/2009
Caesar Paul wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from
the cockpit.
>
> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my
boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for
some relief.
>
> Ron,
>
> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks
for sharing it with us.
>
> Caesar
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
old Rhodes
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>
>
> Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
> giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
> place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
> but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
> anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
> holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
> would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
> do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>> vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>> see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>> wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>> refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>> arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>> especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>> a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>> (get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>> the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>> would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>
> >from the the swim ladder.
>
>> Better find an aspirin...
>>
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
original
>>> rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
the
>>> cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
line, and
>>> a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
furler.
>>> Enclosed are picts.
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
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A nice looking one to:
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ170357566839
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ170357566839
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:41:04 -0400
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Rick,
I never heard of Nixalite "Predator Eyes" until now. I looked on the
website - you're right, it doesn't appear to be too scary. I'll stick with
the real thing, Nixalite bird spikes, since they work so well.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
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From: "Rick" <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> The boat next to me has a Nixalite "Predator Eyes" balloon hanging from a
> spreader. It is a great perch for the harbor swallows.
>
> I've had some success keeping birds off sheets and rails by hanging from
> them old CDs or DVDs by a shoestring. Be sure they are located sort of
> north of where the birds sit so the reflected sunlight flashes toward the
> birds.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Michael D. Weisner
> <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:
>
>> Below is an excerpt from the archives (thread:Organic deck deposits,
>> http://www.nabble.com/Organic-deck-deposits-to21511058.html#a21549141).
>> I use Nixalite for birds, squirrels, etc. It is simple and it works
>> really
>> well:
>>
>> Why go to the trouble of using high tech, powered deterrents?
>> Just be a poor host to these birds and they will choose a more
>> comfortable boat to hang out. For years I have been successful
>> at ridding my R22. and several other sailboats. of cormorants
>> (sea crows) by using Nixalite bird spikes atop the mast
>> (http://www.nixalite.com/nixalitemodels.aspx).
>>
>> Before raising the mast, drill a couple of small holes (1/8", I
>> think) as described in the Nixalite installation instructions in
>> the masthead (top) to secure the clips that hold a small portion
>> of the product to the masthead with short stainless self-tapping
>> screws. The spikes stick straight up when the mast is stepped
>> (be careful of VHF aerial and Windex, if so equipped) and do
>> not interfere with the sail. Additionally, I use a couple of pieces
>> of 20 to 30 pound test monofilament line strung from the mast
>> to the side stays, starting an inch or so above each spreader.
>> This prevents the birds from roosting on the top of the spreaders
>> as well.
>>
>> Obviously, this does not work if the birds tend to sit on the
>> deck, rails, boom or bimini. For this problem, you may need
>> to be more creative or temporarily place monofilament line at
>> appropriate locations to be removed when the boat is occupied.
>> The time spent setting up and removing the deterrents is a
>> fraction of the time necessary to constantly clean up after the
>> birds.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast
>> on
>> > fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>> > putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop
>> > this.
>> > Anyone have any other ideas ??
>> > Rory
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Rory Orkin
>> > Tilghman, Md
>> > 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>> > Duet ll
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:51:05 -0400
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
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I could not get the links to work so, after searching, I found it under
"Item:170357566839" on ebay. Boat looks clean (no idea of year), non-IMF,
with new looking single axle trailer in Bessemer City, NC.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
>
> A nice looking one to:
>
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ170357566839
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ170357566839
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:08:51 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gunnel mounted swim ladders
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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John,
What type of swim ladder did you end up with? This one has a 6"
standoff, but is a bit pricey,
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10
001/120849/377%20710%20840/712/Ladders%20/Primary%20Search/mode%20matcha
llpartial/10/0?N=377%20710%20840&Ne=712&Ntt=Ladders%20&Ntk=Primary%20Sea
rch&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=ladder&isLTokenURL=tr
ue&storeNum=5&subdeptNum=31&classNum=32
While this one is cheaper, but there is not much of a stand off.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10
001/288473/377%20710%20840/712/Ladders%20/Primary%20Search/mode%20matcha
llpartial/10/0?N=377%20710%20840&Ne=712&Ntt=Ladders%20&Ntk=Primary%20Sea
rch&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=ladder&isLTokenURL=tr
ue&storeNum=5&subdeptNum=31&classNum=32
thanks - rob
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Shulick
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:09 AM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
A nice looking one to:
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
6839
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:26:06 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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John,
For some reason the link you included didn't work, but I found it
anyway. Here's the link I found it under.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQitemZ170357566839QQcmdZVie
wItemQQptZSailboats?hash=item27aa1a2d77&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=
65%3A12|39%3A1|72%3A317
Looks like a furling jib but can't tell if it has IMF or not. No motor
apparently. It is a nice looking boat. I'm going to email the guy with
a few questions. - rob
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:09 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
A nice looking one to:
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
6839
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:33:28 -0400
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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I use this one -
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=35601F
The 11" hook size is perfect for the R22 gunwales. Fits snugly and
doesn't flop around.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 17:18, Lowe, Rob wrote:
> John,
> What type of boarding ladder are you using? - rob
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:37:50 -0400
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
mynew old Rhodes
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Probly so... but I don't have bimini. However, if I did, I suspect
the bimini frame (folded) might provide the extra handhold to help get
over the side. Not sure the tubing would like that much but it's
something I'll try in the future.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 21:04, Ron Singerman wrote:
> John,
>
> With the presence of an erected Bimini, boarding from the either the
> port or
> starboard sidecould prove to be problematic.
>
> Fair winds,
>
>>> ron<<
> S/V Serenity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Lock" <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
> mynew
> old Rhodes
>
>
>> Yes, I am aware of where some of the repairs are located and it
>> hasn't
>> been a problem so far. The ladder I am using is a standard boarding
>> ladder with 6" standoffs. This seems to offset the hull curvature
>> nicely and the ladder stays vertical as you climb out. The boat does
>> heel over a little when you put your weight on the ladder. But it's
>> not a lot and if you had anybody already on board they can sit
>> opposite to counterbalance.
>>
>> The only hard part is the same as you mentioned about coming over the
>> stern. It helps to have a handhold above your head to hoist yourself
>> the last bit over the side. I can grab the handrail to do that, but
>> I'm reasonably agile. I like your idea of a suspended "trapeze" to
>> grab. That would make the whole trip even easier.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 16:54, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Be careful where you put the ladder if it is other than a rope
>>> ladder, which I suspect. Your boat had major hull rebuild by Rodger
>>> Rookie before I bought it from him, and there are some weak spots.
>>> Does that really work well, given that the hull is concave vs.
>>> convex?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>>> Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
>>>> my new old Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to
>>>> using
>>>> a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to
>>>> negotiate/
>>>> modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way.
>>>> It's
>>>> much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
>>>> readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores
>>>> neatly
>>>> under the cockpit seats.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>>>>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to
>>>>> and
>>>>> from the cockpit.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working
>>>>> on
>>>>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>>>>> boat for some relief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>
>>>>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>>>>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caesar
>>>>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:49:16 -0400
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <3C7C4ACC-3B2E-4808-9307-75CA434AC1BA at relevantarts.com>
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Looks like it's time for a reminder about long URLs on the list. As
you have noticed, the list software tends to wrap all text, which
breaks up long URLs. To avoid the problem, use www.tinyurl.com. Copy/
paste your long URL into this free service and then use the resulting
"Tiny URL" in your e-mail to the list.
For example, the tiny URL for that Ebay listing is -
http://tinyurl.com/oa64q3
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:26, Lowe, Rob wrote:
> John,
> For some reason the link you included didn't work, but I found it
> anyway. Here's the link I found it under.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQitemZ170357566839QQcmdZVie
> wItemQQptZSailboats?
> hash=item27aa1a2d77&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=
> 65%3A12|39%3A1|72%3A317
>
> Looks like a furling jib but can't tell if it has IMF or not. No
> motor
> apparently. It is a nice looking boat. I'm going to email the guy
> with
> a few questions. - rob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Shulick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
>
>
> A nice looking one to:
>
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/
> RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
> armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
> poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
> 6839
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/
> RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
> armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
> poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
> 6839
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:51:44 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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John,
Thanks. Looks like West has the same item, it's a bit cheaper, they
have 10% off today and I have a gift card to use up. Guess I'm buy a
11" hook 48 inch long swim ladder today! Thanks - rob
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:33 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
I use this one -
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=35601F
The 11" hook size is perfect for the R22 gunwales. Fits snugly and
doesn't flop around.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 17:18, Lowe, Rob wrote:
> John,
> What type of boarding ladder are you using? - rob
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Jlock,
Thanks for the tip I just did the normal cut n paste
John S
Looks like it's time for a reminder about long URLs on the list. As
you have noticed, the list software tends to wrap all text, which
breaks up long URLs. To avoid the problem, use www.tinyurl.com. Copy/
paste your long URL into this free service and then use the resulting
"Tiny URL" in your e-mail to the list.
For example, the tiny URL for that Ebay listing is -
http://tinyurl.com/oa64q3
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:22:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <482117.48949.qm at web34507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Welcome Rich,
?
I have a double axle trailer, and have trailered my boat for the plant in NC to WA on the west coast, and for most of the time had to remind myself that the boat is still back there.? I have also trailered the boat short distances, and was very conscious of? its presence, for it would begin to wag at 50 mph.? What's the difference?? Whether single axle or double axle, the difference is correct tongue weight, or ideal positioning of the boat on the trailer.
?
With regard to camping, you do not have to worry about the boat tipping with the double axle trailer, with the single axle you have to remember to support the ends to ensure it does not tip when boarding or leaving the boat, once it has been disconnected from the tow vehicle.? At, least , so I have been told.
?
One of the benefits of the mast crutch is that you can camp on the boat, move about in the cockpit without constantly bending to avoid hitting your head against the mast.
?
Caesar
Gentle Breeze
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, randerson at iowatelecom.net <randerson at iowatelecom.net> wrote:
From: randerson at iowatelecom.net <randerson at iowatelecom.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer camping and anti-sway bar
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 9:30 PM
I am looking into buying a Rhodes 22.? I am relatively new to the list.
Can some of you who actually trailer your 22 give me some insight into
using the boat as a camper while en route to your sailing destination?
I have read some comments about finding the "sweet spot" on the single
axle trailer to have adequate tongue weight and avoid fishtailing of the
trailer.? In this regard do any of you have experience with an anti-sway
bar on your trailer.? I pull a Coleman tent trailer and have an anti-sway
bar on this trailer.? It seems to suppress fishtailing.? Any comments
regarding this and a Rhodes 22?
Rich Anderson
Clarinda, Iowa
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gunnel mounted swim ladders
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Rob,
Here is the wm # of my ladder WM#5497144 Manuf pt# 7146s
It mounts on the outside of the tramsom and is removable for storage under
the seats or in the laz. All mounting Hdw. was included and it supports me
fine.
John S
"I am the walrus, kew kew kachew"
Rob Lowe wrote:
>
> John,
> What type of swim ladder did you end up with? This one has a 6"
> standoff, but is a bit pricey,
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10
> 001/120849/377%20710%20840/712/Ladders%20/Primary%20Search/mode%20matcha
> llpartial/10/0?N=377%20710%20840&Ne=712&Ntt=Ladders%20&Ntk=Primary%20Sea
> rch&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=ladder&isLTokenURL=tr
> ue&storeNum=5&subdeptNum=31&classNum=32
>
> While this one is cheaper, but there is not much of a stand off.
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10
> 001/288473/377%20710%20840/712/Ladders%20/Primary%20Search/mode%20matcha
> llpartial/10/0?N=377%20710%20840&Ne=712&Ntt=Ladders%20&Ntk=Primary%20Sea
> rch&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=ladder&isLTokenURL=tr
> ue&storeNum=5&subdeptNum=31&classNum=32
>
> thanks - rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Shulick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale on ebay
>
>
> A nice looking one to:
>
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
> armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
> poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
> 6839
> http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHOADES-22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkp
> armsZalgoQ3dSIQ26itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d15Q26
> poQ3dLVICQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ17035756
> 6839
>
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