[Rhodes22-list] Rigging discussion, extra forestay(s)

[Leland]

John,

Here you go:

  http://www.rhodes22.org/upssail/index.html

Compliments of one of Mary Lou's posts.

Lee




jlock wrote:
> 
> I don't know how it differs because I don't remember how they rig  
> their UPS.  Wasn't double-slotted furling gear involved on a single  
> headstay?
> 
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 15:35, Leland wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> How would your inside stay differ from what Fred and Mary Lou and  
>> others
>> have with their UPS rigging?
>>
>> Come to think of it, how do you come about with headsails on a  
>> cutter?  Some
>> of the double forestays are real close together.  Do you need to  
>> furl the
>> sails back in before tacking?
>>
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>> Kent Island, MD
>>
>>
>> jlock wrote:
>>>
>>> Aha, I forgot to mention that that inside stay is removable.  I.E. it
>>> has a shackle or other arrangement that lets you detach it from the
>>> deck and clip aside out of the way when not in use.  Hmmm... maybe
>>> this is getting too complicated.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 14:19, Hank wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> How are you going to tack the genoa through only 6 inches of space
>>>> between
>>>> the two forestays?
>>>>
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Art's addition of a furling spinnaker attached to the reinforced  
>>>>> bow
>>>>> pulpit reminded me of a sail plan change I have been contemplating.
>>>>> So I thought I would run it by the list for comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw an article recently about a guy (on a much larger boat) who  
>>>>> had
>>>>> added an inner forestay about six inches behind the main forestay.
>>>>> This ran to a mast "hound" (it was called) on the mast six inches
>>>>> below the masthead where the main forestay attached.  The result
>>>>> was a
>>>>> hank-on jib stay running six inches inside the main forestay.  He
>>>>> used
>>>>> this for a smaller, working jib and furled a big genoa on the main
>>>>> forestay.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I was thinking.... could this be applied to the much smaller
>>>>> Rhodes
>>>>> as well?  Attachment to the mast is easy.  Attaching a strong point
>>>>> to
>>>>> the deck just behind the furling drum is the tricky part.  I  
>>>>> might be
>>>>> tempted to add this to fly a 110% jib for upwind sailing and  
>>>>> replace
>>>>> the big genoa on the main forestay with a furling UPS for offwind.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I don't know how to calculate the load on the inner forestay  
>>>>> and
>>>>> engineer/install a deck attachment that would be strong enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> John Lock
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 13:20, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>>>> This rig addition is in place for a furling spinnaker but applies
>>>>>> also as a 'backup stay' for the forestay and furling genoa.  A  
>>>>>> 1/8'
>>>>>> SS wire is fixed to the masthead in front of the forestay and
>>>>>> brought to, and fixed to the front tip of the bow pulpit.  This  
>>>>>> bow
>>>>>> pulpit fixture (can be as simple as a SS sliding jaw, $4.99 at
>>>>>> Marineparts.com) has a 5/32" SS wire which is then fixed to the  
>>>>>> bow
>>>>>> eye assembly below.  Call this a cheap sprit-like option, if you
>>>>>> will, but provides a backup option.
>>>>>
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